Re: [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram document
Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Fri, 08 December 2017 01:04 UTC
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From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
To: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>, netmod@ietf.org, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com>, Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
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Subject: Re: [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram document
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Umm, bcp covers process and consensus agreement while informational typically does not*. I also don't see how 6087bis would be a more suited to be a bcp than this document. Lou On December 7, 2017 7:06:35 PM Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> wrote: > > BCP for tree-diagrams? This doesn't seem like an appropriate application > of that designation. I don't view the format for tree diagrams to be a > "practice", whereas it definitely seems "informational". > > Looking more deeply at RFC2026, I can see how Section's 4.2.2's "...does > not represent an Internet community consensus or recommendation" could be > cause for objection, since this draft is obviously going through a WG > (NETMOD) and therefore does, in fact, represent some form of consensus, but > I'm willing to gloss over that line as, clearly, many Informational RFCs > are published by WGs, which wouldn't be possible if that line were taken > literally. Perhaps we should file Errata against it? > > Kent // co-chair > > > ===== original message ===== > > Hi Juergen, > > Sorry for the slow response, I missed this message. > > Circling back to this discussion made me go revisit RFC2026. Based on > all the factors/discussions I agree that standards track isn't quite > right for this document, but I also think informational isn't quite > right either. I do think BCP would as described in RFC2026 fits. This > said, I think it would be good to hear from at least Kent (as Chair) and > Benoit (as AD) if they agree/disagree with publishing as a BCP. > > Kent, Benoit? > > Thanks, > > Lou > > On 11/17/2017 1:54 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: >> Lou, >> >> right now, the document says standards track, Martin's proposal was to >> move to informational. So how do I parse "I think you are correct. We >> should leave as is."? >> >> /js >> >> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 07:36:58AM +0800, Lou Berger wrote: >>> Martin, >>> I think you are correct. We should leave as is. >>> >>> I'm sure Kent/the document Shepherd makes sure whatever we do is right >>> before publication in any case. >>> >>> Lou (as contributor) >>> >>> On 11/15/2017 8:58 PM, Martin Bjorklund wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Currently, draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams has intended status >>>> Standards Track. I think I heard during the meeting today that it >>>> ought to be Informational. I think this makes sense. It would then >>>> imply that other standards track documents will have the tree diagram >>>> document as an informative reference. >>>> >>>> Should we make this change? >>>> >>>> >>>> /martin >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> netmod mailing list >>>> netmod@ietf.org >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_netmod&d=DwIDaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=9zkP0xnJUvZGJ9EPoOH7Yhqn2gsBYaGTvjISlaJdcZo&m=3BCNpvoumTA-4yjD5n04CSFPUs2jLAlNoj5OIoOXDkU&s=Pi6G9uzvFRpUNkgaZa2tRR07sP7byEskonoVDeyYcQE&e= >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> netmod mailing list >>> netmod@ietf.org >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_mailman_listinfo_netmod&d=DwIDaQ&c=HAkYuh63rsuhr6Scbfh0UjBXeMK-ndb3voDTXcWzoCI&r=9zkP0xnJUvZGJ9EPoOH7Yhqn2gsBYaGTvjISlaJdcZo&m=3BCNpvoumTA-4yjD5n04CSFPUs2jLAlNoj5OIoOXDkU&s=Pi6G9uzvFRpUNkgaZa2tRR07sP7byEskonoVDeyYcQE&e= > > >
- Re: [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram … Lou Berger
- [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram docu… Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram … Martin Bjorklund
- Re: [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram … Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram … Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram … Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram … Kent Watsen
- Re: [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram … Lou Berger
- Re: [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram … Susan Hares
- Re: [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram … Mehmet Ersue
- Re: [netmod] intended status of the tree diagram … Benoit Claise