Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA2008 WG (newprep)
Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu> Fri, 11 June 2010 12:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA2008 WG (newprep)
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>>>>> "Alexey" == Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> writes: Alexey> Sam Hartman wrote: >>>>>>> "Jiankang" == Jiankang YAO <yaojk@cnnic.cn> writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jiankang> If there are many things we must do, we(WGs) normally Jiankang> prioritize the things. sometimes, the easier one first; Jiankang> sometimes, the difficult one first. >> Sure. That's fine for the WG to do. I don't think it is good to >> do in the charter without some fairness criteria. All items >> brought up by the time external review of the charter concluded >> seems like a reasonable fairness criteria. Putting the cutoff >> before that seems unreasonable. >> >> Obviously, the WG can internally prioritize (and change its >> priorities) within its normal administrative processes. >> Jiankang> If peter's list is not ok for you, could you kindly give Jiankang> us your list? >> >> The list in the charter plus: >> >> 1) Considering Kerberos implications for SASLPREP revisions >> >> Alexey> Sam, I think this is granted. I don't think this needs to be Alexey> written into the charter, especially considering that there Alexey> is a good deal of overlap between people active in Kerberos Alexey> and SASL WGs. I'm totally happy with that interpretation. >> 2) Considering RFC 4282. >> >> Alexey> Do you consider RFC 4282 to be a stringprep profile? My Alexey> quick scan of the document (in particular Section 2.4) is Alexey> not conclusive. It's my read that section 2.4 invokes all of toascii from IDNA 2003, which definitely implies stringprep under the covers. However, I think the spec is kind of broken both for IDNA2003 and IDNA2008; if you take a look at the proposed erata aspects of the AAA community agree. The solution is probably not going to be a stringprep profile, although the solution is probably not going to be any more complicated than something like XMPP's solution. However, I definitely think the AAA community needs to have some internationalization experts to talk to in order to have a chance of success.
- [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA2008 WG… IESG Secretary
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… JFC Morfin
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Mark Lentczner
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Alan DeKok
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Jiankang YAO
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman