Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA2008 WG (newprep)

Mark Lentczner <markl@lindenlab.com> Wed, 19 May 2010 15:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA2008 WG (newprep)
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On May 19, 2010, at 6:40 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

> We're trying to balance two things here: (1) we want to get as much
> input as possible from current and potential customers of stringprep or
> newprep/stringprepbis/whatever, but (2) we want to scope the WG tightly
> enough that it doesn't have a mandate to work on "anything related to
> internationalized strings".

I read this, and the proposed charter as meeting my needs: I'm not working with a current stringprep profile, but want to define something like a stringprep profile. I now don't want to use stringprep as is, but it's framework approach is what I need. I'm willing to put effort into such work.

I also whole-heartedly agree that we don't want this working group to be "anything related to non-ASCII strings".

> In an email exchange with Marc and Alexey Melnikov last week, I proposed
> adding ...
> 
>   Although the group will seek input from and may provide advice to
>   "customers" working on other technologies, it will prioritize work
>   on the above-listed stringprep profiles and will take on additional
>   tasks as official milestones only after rechartering.

Wait: That seems like a step back from the original charter. That seems to exclude any work on a "stringprepbis" or other generally useful draft. If so, I'm left a bit in the cold.

It seems to me that while the WG should examine the particulars of the stringprep profiles under concern one by one - that wouldn't be the way we'd want to update them. Instead we'd want to either come up with a way to bring stringprep as a concept forward, or replace it with something similar, so that all the profiles under examination would have a consistent treatment in "updating". (Though I admit the likelihood of exceptions.) I don't think this kind of approach should be out of scope from the get go. 

	- Mark

P.S.: I've simply replied all, but should this discussion be just newprep only, or do all those other lists want/need to be in on it?




Mark Lentczner
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