Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA2008 WG (newprep)
Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> Wed, 19 May 2010 15:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA2008 WG (newprep)
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Sam Hartman wrote: > The first is RFC 4282. RFC 4282 section 2.4 discusses > internationalization strategies based on stringprep and IDNA2003. It > does not define its own profile. Apparently, in addition to all the > reasons you would probably want to update anything based on IDNA 2003, > RFC 4282 does not meet the needs of the implementor community. One > proposal for addressing RFC 4282 is draft-dekok-radext-nai-01.txt I > think any proposal in this space will require both help from newprep and > from the radext/aaa community. Based on my past experience in emu, the > aaa community, like the rest of the IETF, can use i18n help. The intent of 4282 was to standardize the usage of "realms" (i.e. most commonly DNS domain names) within AAA protocols. Other goals were general i18n issues, and not creating another registry. The result contained a lot of i18n text, which IMHO doesn't really belong. The AAA and EAP supplicant implementors seem to have agreed, as they've uniformly ignored the i18n suggestions in 4282. The needs of the AAA community (IMHO) are reflected in updated document. The authors of 4282 generally agree with the attitude of that document. What this means for stringprep is simple: the needs of the AAA community can likely be addressed by serving the needs of DNS, and general user data entry. The AAA community will probably leverage that work to carry i18n strings "verbatim" in their protocols. i.e. AAA proxies have *no business* doing anything with names they carry, other than comparing them for byte-by-byte equality or inequality. The proxy is an intermediary, and knows nothing about the end user or the home authentication system. Alan DeKok.
- [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA2008 WG… IESG Secretary
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… JFC Morfin
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Mark Lentczner
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Alan DeKok
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Jiankang YAO
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [newprep] WG Review: Stringprep after IDNA200… Sam Hartman