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Re: [newtrk] IESG comments on ISD proposal

Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi> Tue, 10 May 2005 19:57 UTC

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From: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
To: Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu>
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Subject: Re: [newtrk] IESG comments on ISD proposal
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On Tue, 10 May 2005, Sam Hartman wrote:
>    Pekka> My point is: if the IESG thought roadmap documents were
>    Pekka> important, such docs would be much more commonplace in the
>    Pekka> WG charters.
>
> That's not how it works.  If we don't believe that people will do the
> work we tend not to charter it.

Lots of people seem to be disinterested in working on problem 
statements, requirements documents, framework documents, or whatnot, 
yet somehow those often end up in the charters of a lot of WGs.

Apply the same techniques, if the IESG feels writing roadmap documents 
is useful.  If the IESG doesn't, at least the roadmap version of the 
ISD is out.

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Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings
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