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Re: [newtrk] IESG comments on ISD proposal

Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Wed, 11 May 2005 09:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [newtrk] IESG comments on ISD proposal
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Pekka Savola wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2005, Sam Hartman wrote:
> 
>>    Pekka> My point is: if the IESG thought roadmap documents were
>>    Pekka> important, such docs would be much more commonplace in the
>>    Pekka> WG charters.
>>
>> That's not how it works.  If we don't believe that people will do the
>> work we tend not to charter it.
> 
> 
> Lots of people seem to be disinterested in working on problem 
> statements, requirements documents, framework documents, or whatnot, yet 
> somehow those often end up in the charters of a lot of WGs.
> 
> Apply the same techniques, if the IESG feels writing roadmap documents 
> is useful.  If the IESG doesn't, at least the roadmap version of the ISD 
> is out.

You're going too fast. As our note said, we didn't have consensus on this,
and that's why we have engaged in discussion with the WG.

   Brian

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