Re: [newtrk] IESG comments on ISD proposal

Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi> Tue, 10 May 2005 19:07 UTC

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From: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
To: Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu>
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Subject: Re: [newtrk] IESG comments on ISD proposal
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On Tue, 10 May 2005, Sam Hartman wrote:
>>>>>> "Pekka" == Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi> writes:
>    Pekka> to produce such documents.  So the question is, doesn't the
>    Pekka> IESG see the need for roadmaps (or similar documents) as
>    Pekka> the WGs aren't chartered to produce them ?
>
> I certainly don't think the IESG has time to write these documents
> ourselves.  I think that the reason that these aren't typically
> chartered is lack of available effort.
>
> If you can find people with the time to work on some particular
> technology roadmap, by all means propose a BOF or charter modification
> to existing working group.
>
> Whether such documents are ISDs or RFCs is mostly orthogonal to how
> much effort is required.  If we have people to do the work it can
> happen.  Otherwise it will not.

My point is: if the IESG thought roadmap documents were important, 
such docs would be much more commonplace in the WG charters.

It's of course possible to work on this by collecting sufficient 
number of like-minded individuals, but I doubt such an attempt would 
be all that successful.

The IESG needs to see this as a very important thing, otherwise it 
won't really happen.

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
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