Re: [nfsv4] WGLC ended; Now what?

spencer shepler <spencer.shepler@gmail.com> Mon, 05 December 2016 17:27 UTC

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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 09:27:05 -0800
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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] WGLC ended; Now what?
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Thanks for the reminder about updating the datatracker, David.  I have done
that and when consensus has been determined for the documents, I will move
them to "WG Consensus: waiting for writeup".

And on that topic, it is the responsibility of the WG co-chairs to
determine consensus at the end of the last call period.  I appreciate your
document summary and timeline for updating the document but it is my
responsibility to notify of consensus or not on the documents.

What I need from the other authors is if they plan on updates at this point
and when those will be completed.

Spencer

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:03 AM, David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> wrote:

> Working Group Last Call for the following documents, which started on
> 11/10, ended on 12/2:
>
>    - draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioning (initiated on -07)
>    - draft-ietf-nfsv4-xattrs (initiated on -03)
>    - draft-ietf-nfsv4-umask (initiated on -02)
>
> As the purpose of WGLC is to elicit comments, it is natural  that those
> comments prompt a set of changes before producing a document that is ready
> to go forward to the IESG with.  I don't think there is any official state
> for the period between the end of WGLC, and the production of a documernt
> that incorporates WG feedback.  I think our practice has been to simply
> leave the document in the WGLC State until it is ready to go forward.
>
> In this particular case, the situation is complicated by the fact that the
> transition to WGLC was not recorded on 11/10, as it should have been.
> Unless there is a way to do this retroactively (unlikely), the Datatracker
> history is going to be misleading.  Although one would like this history to
> be accurate, people will just have to be aware that this kind of
> discrepancy exists.  This will probably only turn out to be a real problem
> for potential future PhD candidates whose thesis topic involves the
> history of file access protocols.
>
> In any case, I believe that, as far as my document is concerened,
> versioning-08 is what we should be going forward with.  I've already sent
> out an email detailing how recent comments were addressed.  In order to
> give people time to state any objections or remaining issues, I will wait
> until 12/9 before requesting that we go forward with this document.  I
> assume that other document authors will post their response to comments
> (and submit a new version if necessary) within the next few weeks and we
> will consider the period of time up until that point as effectively part of
> WGLC, even though new WGLC comments would not be appropriate after 12/2.
>
> As discussed at IETF96, there is a general feeling that the IESG would do
> well to consider these documents together.  However, I don't think they
> need to be tightly synchronized.  Once we have a set of documents ready to
> go forward, we can discuss arrangements to have them considered by the
> IESG.
>
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