Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in 2011
Benny Halevy <bhalevy@panasas.com> Mon, 11 October 2010 22:44 UTC
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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in 2011
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On 2010-10-11 18:19, Thomas Haynes wrote: > I've had some offline discussions and it appears that I may not have > been clear enough on the proposal for Paris. The question is whether > or not we believe enough people/companies will be present to have > an interesting mix of implementations in order to be effective in > testing? (And yes, the whole utility is not testing, but it is a close > enough yardstick.) > > We typically have 3 people present at each BakeAThon from Europe > or Israel. We happened to have 4 this time. > > We have 3 or 4 people outside of those who have been vocal in the > past about having the event in Paris. We even proposed that the > BAT that was held in Ann Arbor be held in Paris this year. That never > gained any real traction. > > I count that there might have been 30 people testing in Boston - there > were more who showed up for talks or who were registered but did > not attend. > > I think a normal attendance number is 20 people. > > In the past, we have had just one BAT in a year because the worth > was low - it wasn't a matter of cost, but because we didn't have > enough to test. I actually thought we were going to only have one > BAT in 2010, but the Linux developers in particular wanted > the second event. > > And we have certainly seen organizations manage cost by reducing > attendance. > > So if organizations commit to sending some developers, but not all, > what is the minimal mass in both technologies and people we need > to be effective? > > I don't know the answers, but I do not want to see a BAT fail because > there is not enough representation and then see a drop off in attendance > in the next event. > > So why don't we gather some data: > > 1) Do you plan to attend the June 2011 BAT if it is in Paris? > yes > 2) Do you plan to attend the June 2011 BAT if it is at CITI? > yes > 3) If you said yes to both, which one do you think you would get > the most worth from? > assuming attendance will be similar, at least in number of companies (not individuals necessarily) attending, I think both will work well. > 4) Did you attend the June 2010 BAT at CITI? yes Benny > > I'm asking you to answer as an individual and not as a company. But > please remember you need to secure funding from your company. > I.e., don't say yes to Paris because you want to visit it, say yes if > you know you will most likely be present. Also, if normally two of > you from your company attend and you know that your management > will only support one going to Paris, please reflect that in your > responses. > > If you don't feel comfortable replying to list, just send your reply to me. > > > _______________________________________________ > nfsv4 mailing list > nfsv4@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Mkrtchyan, Tigran
- [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in 2011 Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Benny Halevy
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… sfaibish
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… sfaibish
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Steve Dickson
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Mike Eisler
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… J. Bruce Fields
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… david.noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Erasani, Pranoop
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Benny Halevy
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… David Rhodus
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Mkrtchyan, Tigran
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Benny Halevy
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Sorin Faibish
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Erasani, Pranoop
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… sfaibish
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Sandeep Joshi
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Steve Dickson
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… sfaibish
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Tigran Mkrtchyan