Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in 2011

Benny Halevy <> Mon, 11 October 2010 22:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in 2011
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On 2010-10-11 18:19, Thomas Haynes wrote:
> I've had some offline discussions and it appears that I may not have
> been clear enough on the proposal for Paris. The question is whether
> or not we believe enough people/companies will be present to have
> an interesting mix of implementations in order to be effective in
> testing? (And yes, the whole utility is not testing, but it is a close
> enough yardstick.)
> We typically have 3 people present at each BakeAThon from Europe
> or Israel. We happened to have 4 this time.
> We have 3 or 4 people outside of those who have been vocal in the
> past about having the event in Paris. We even proposed that the
> BAT that was held in Ann Arbor be held in Paris this year. That never
> gained any real traction.
> I count that there might have been 30 people testing in Boston - there
> were more who showed up for talks or who were registered but did
> not attend.
> I think a normal attendance number is 20 people.
> In the past, we have had just one BAT in a year because the worth
> was low - it wasn't a matter of cost, but because we didn't have
> enough to test. I actually thought we were going to only have one
> BAT in 2010, but the Linux developers in particular wanted
> the second event.
> And we have certainly seen organizations manage cost by reducing
> attendance.
> So if organizations commit to sending some developers, but not all,
> what is the minimal mass in both technologies and people we need
> to be effective?
> I don't know the answers, but I do not want to see a BAT fail because
> there is not enough representation and then see a drop off in attendance
> in the next event.
> So why don't we gather some data:
> 1) Do you plan to attend the June 2011 BAT if it is in Paris?


> 2) Do you plan to attend the June 2011 BAT if it is at CITI?


> 3) If you said yes to both, which one do you think you would get
> the most worth from?

assuming attendance will be similar, at least in number of
companies (not individuals necessarily) attending, I think
both will work well.

> 4) Did you attend the June 2010 BAT at CITI?



> I'm asking you to answer as an individual and not as a company. But
> please remember you need to secure funding from your company.
> I.e., don't say yes to Paris because you want to visit it, say yes if
> you know you will most likely be present. Also, if normally two of
> you from your company attend and you know that your management
> will only support one going to Paris, please reflect that in your
> responses.
> If you don't feel comfortable replying to list, just send your reply to me.
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