Re: [nfsv4] FW: New Version Notification for draft-faibish-nfsv4-data-reduction-attributes-03.txt

David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> Fri, 26 June 2020 09:45 UTC

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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 05:44:44 -0400
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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] FW: New Version Notification for draft-faibish-nfsv4-data-reduction-attributes-03.txt
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On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 4:34 PM <Faibish.Sorin@dell.com> wrote:

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> *From:* nfsv4 <nfsv4-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of * David Noveck
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2020 6:13 AM
> *To:* faibish, sorin
> *Cc:* NFSv4
> *Subject:* Re: [nfsv4] FW: New Version Notification for
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> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 4:01 PM <Faibish.Sorin@dell.com> wrote:
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> I will present my plans for an implementation during the meeting/call.
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> If you are requesting a speaking slot at that meeting and it seems as if
> you are, you need to send me something that tells me what you intend to
> talk about and how much time you intend to take.
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> [sf] Yes please plan for 15 min slot
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Normally "plans for an implementation" might be an OK description but in
> this case the specific attributes you intend to implement have never been
> described, so I'll need some clarification on that, as would anyone who
> might be interested in interoperating with your proposed implementation.
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> [sf] Yes, I will include the proposed attributes in the slides that I will
> present for discussions and agreement.
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Ok. You've given me enough detail to include this in the preliminary agenda.

No additional changes were made at this time.
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> In the eleven months since the -00 was published, there has been very
> limited progress toward describing the substance of the proposed attributes
> and I think the working group will want to hear about your plans to make
> progress in that regard. The need for that description was made clear at
> the post-107 meeting.
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> [sf] I don’t disagree and this is what I intent to include in the plan as
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> Also, you agreed to work on the nvme/pNFS document and we will need a
> progress report on that effort.
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> [sf] We made some progress and Christophe did a first review and started a
> git where we checked the document and started the review. I am still
> waiting for a last review of David Black. I might post the draft as it is
> now (needs more cleanup) so the WG can start a review.
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I'd like that, but I think I have to check with Magnus to make sure there
is no rule preventing us from discussing a very recently submitted draft,
as there would be in the case in which we were meetimg the week of IETF
108. Sigh.


In any case we intent to get a spot to present the progress made since 107.
We need a slot for this, maybe 20min. thank you

> Great. Will do. Who should the agenda list as presenters?


> ./Sorin
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> Thank you
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> Sorin Faibish, SDE, DellEMC Midrange Division
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 3:55 PM
> To: faibish, sorin; Shilane, Philip
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> draft-faibish-nfsv4-data-reduction-attributes-03.txt
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> A new version of I-D, draft-faibish-nfsv4-data-reduction-attributes-03.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Sorin Faibish and posted to the IETF
> repository.
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> Name:           draft-faibish-nfsv4-data-reduction-attributes
> Revision:       03
> Title:          Support for Data Reduction Attributes in nfsv4 Version 2
> Document date:  2020-06-24
> Group:          Individual Submission
> Pages:          13
> URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-faibish-nfsv4-data-reduction-attributes-03.txt
> Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-faibish-nfsv4-data-reduction-attributes/
> Htmlized:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-faibish-nfsv4-data-reduction-attributes-03
> Htmlized:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-faibish-nfsv4-data-reduction-attributes
> Diff:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-faibish-nfsv4-data-reduction-attributes-03
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> Abstract:
>    This document proposes extending NFSv4 operations to add new
>    RECOMMENDED attributes to be used in the protocol to provide
>    information about the data reduction properties of files. The new
>    data reduction attributes are proposed to allow the client
>    application to communicate to the NFSv4 server data reduction
>    attributes associated with files and directories using new metadata,
>    communicated to the Block Storage data reduction engines.
>    Corresponding new RECOMMENDED attributes are proposed to allow
>    clients and client applications to query the server for data
>    reduction attributes support and allow to get and set data reduction
>    attributes on files and directories. Such data reduction
>    metadata is used as hints to the file server about what type of data
>    reduction to apply. The proposed data reduction attributes include
>    achievable ratios for compression and deduplication plus whether
>    each data reduction technique applies to a file or directory.
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