[nfsv4] AD review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis-11
Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 07 August 2017 21:45 UTC
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Subject: [nfsv4] AD review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis-11
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Hi, Chuck, This is another one of the NFSv4 docs that is easy to review. Thanks for that. I have some comments, but most of them are about clarity, rather than about technical concerns. Please let me know what you think, after you've had an opportunity to look these over. Thanks, Spencer (D) -- Pretty much every reviewer is going to ask you to update the reference to draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5666bis to point to RFC 8166. Might as well do that sooner, rather than later, because when reviewers start typing, they rarely stop ... When I saw this text This document contains material required of Upper Layer Bindings, as specified in [I-D.ietf-nfsv4-rfc5666bis], for the following NFS protocol versions: o NFS Version 2 [RFC1094] o NFS Version 3 [RFC1813] o NFS Version 4.0 [RFC7530] o NFS Version 4.1 [RFC5661] o NFS Version 4.2 [RFC7862] Upper Layer Bindings are also provided for auxiliary protocols used with NFS versions 2 and 3. I found myself wondering "what auxiliary protocols?" When you define the Upper Layer Bindings for them in Section 4, that's very clear. Could you consider either moving some of the Section 4 text here or just adding a forward reference here, pointing to Section 4? I found this text (to avoid hitting in a Duplicate Reply Cache) a trifle unclear - is this saying (to avoid receiving the same error again from a Duplicate Reply Cache) or something else? But even s/hitting in/hitting/ would be clearer for me. In this text, Unless explicitly mentioned as applicable, short Reply chunk retry should not be used. I wondered if you're saying "this is less efficient", or "this will probably fail". Or some other possibility. But perhaps being clear about likely consequences of doing something you're recommending against, would help people talk themselves into believing you. This text A transport error does not give an indication of whether the server has processed the arguments of the RPC Call, or whether the server has accessed or modified client memory associated with that RPC. appears in Section 3, which covers NFS 2 and NFS 3/legacy NFS. Is this also true for more recent versions? Or is that not a meaningful concept in non-legacy NFS? Pardon my unfamiliarity, but in this text, Historically, NFS/RDMA implementations have chosen to convey the MOUNT, NLM, and NSM protocols via TCP. To enable interoperation of these protocols when NFS/RDMA is in use, a legacy NFS server MUST provide TCP-based MOUNT, NLM, and NSM services. are these auxiliary protocols a set (so, they would all be present), or are they independent (so some might be present while others might not be)? If they're a set, "MUST provide x, y, and z" is the right answer, but if they're independent, "MUST provide support for these protocols via TCP" would be more appropriate. (I only ask about this because this text is inside a MUST) I see that NFSACL isn't mentioned in the previous paragraph I asked about. I see Legacy clients and servers that support the NFSACL RPC Program typically convey NFSACL procedures on the same connection as NFS RPC Programs. This obviates the need for separate rpcbind queries to discover server support for this RPC Program. in the following section, and I'm assuming that the question of transport protocol support for NFSACL has already been answered because it's using the same connection as some other protocol that you've already answered the question about. Did I get that right? In this text, Specifically, the requirements of [I-D.ietf-nfsv4-rfc5666bis] ensure that this choice does not introduce new vulnerabilities. ensure that this choice does not introduce new vulnerabilities. I believe you, but the people who write security reviews might appreciate a pointer to a specific section in [I-D.ietf-nfsv4-rfc5666bis] to bound their search, if there's one you can point to.
- [nfsv4] AD review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis-… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [nfsv4] AD review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] AD review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [nfsv4] AD review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [nfsv4] AD review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] AD review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] AD review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [nfsv4] AD review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667… Chuck Lever