Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpc-tls-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com> Tue, 07 July 2020 15:16 UTC
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From: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
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Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 11:15:56 -0400
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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpc-tls-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Hi Roman- Thanks for your review and comments. If I may, I'd like to handle the DISCUSS first, and then respond to the COMMENTs in a separate reply. > On Jul 6, 2020, at 11:24 PM, Roman Danyliw via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote: > > Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpc-tls-08: Discuss > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > DISCUSS: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ** Despite Section 5.0 stating that only TLS v1.3+ can be used, there are two > references to TLS v1.2 mechanisms: Good catch! > -- Section 5.0. Per “Implementations MUST support certificate-based mutual > authentication. Support for TLS-PSK mutual authentication [RFC4279] is > OPTIONAL”. Shouldn’t Section 2.2.2 or 4.2.11 of RFC8446 be used instead? In fact Section 5.2.3 already cites RFC8446 Section 2.2. I propose changing Section 5.0 as follows: OLD: * Implementations MUST support certificate-based mutual authentication. Support for TLS-PSK mutual authentication [RFC4279] is OPTIONAL. See Section 4.2 for further details. NEW: * Implementations MUST support certificate-based mutual authentication. Support for PSK mutual authentication is OPTIONAL; see Section 5.2.3 for further details. > -- Section 5.2.4. The token binding mechanism suggested here, RFC8471, only > applies to TLS v1.2. The expired draft-ietf-tokbind-tls13 provides the TLS > v1.3 mechanism. Potential replacement: OLD: 5.2.4. Token Binding This mechanism is OPTIONAL to implement. In this mode, a token uniquely identifies the RPC peer. Versions of TLS after TLS 1.2 contain a token binding mechanism that is more secure than using certificates. This mechanism is detailed in [RFC8471]. NEW: 5.2.4. Token Binding This mechanism is OPTIONAL to implement. In this mode, a token uniquely identifies the RPC peer. The TLSv1.3 token binding mechanism is detailed in [I-D.ietf-tokbind-tls13]. Another option would be to remove this section. > ** Section 7.4. Per “When using AUTH_NULL or AUTH_SYS, both peers are required > to have DNS TLSA records and certificate material …”, what is “certificate > materials”? Can this guidance please be clarified (and perhaps related to the > options specified in Section 5.2). Potential replacement: OLD: * When using AUTH_NULL or AUTH_SYS, both peers are required to have DNS TLSA records and certificate material, and a policy that requires mutual peer authentication and rejection of a connection when host authentication fails. NEW: * When using AUTH_NULL or AUTH_SYS, both peers are required to have DNS TLSA records, keys with which to perform mutual peer authentication using one of the methods described in Section 5.2, and a security policy that requires mutual peer authentication and rejection of a connection when host authentication fails. -- Chuck Lever
- [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-nfs… Roman Danyliw via Datatracker
- Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf… Mkrtchyan, Tigran
- Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf… Roman Danyliw
- Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf… Chuck Lever
- Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf… Chuck Lever