[nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is existing OPEN stateid
Rick Macklem <rick.macklem@gmail.com> Thu, 03 October 2024 00:26 UTC
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Subject: [nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is existing OPEN stateid
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On Wed, Oct 2, 2024 at 9:16 AM Thomas Haynes <loghyr@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Oct 2, 2024, at 5:51 AM, Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2024-10-01 at 22:24 -0700, Thomas Haynes wrote: > >> > >>> On Oct 1, 2024, at 6:11 AM, Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net> wrote: > >>> > >>> Another delstid question. Consider the following situation. All opens > >>> have WANT_OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION set: > >>> > >>> 1/ Client opens a file r/o. Server doesn't assign a delegation, so an > >>> open stateid (with seq=1) is returned. > >>> > >>> 2/ Client opens the file again for r/w. Server assigns a delegation and > >>> skips updating the OPEN stateid's seqid and sending the result back to > >>> the client. > >>> > >>> Is that wrong behavior? It seems like that would morph the open stateid > >>> for this openowner without updating the client as to the new stateid. > >>> The delegation does cover it in that case, but it seems less than > >>> optimal if the client ends up returning that delegation later. > >>> > >>> If the client already holds an open stateid, should we ignore > >>> WANT_OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION? > >>> -- > >>> Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net> > >> > >> > >> It seems to me we can’t break the upgrade, so we have to honor the WANT_OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION by returning an upgraded open stateid. > >> > >> I.e., if the client already has an open stateid and presents an WANT_OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION, then cannot return just a delegation. Either we just upgrade the existing open stateid or we upgrade it and also return the delegation. > >> > >> Likewise, if we had already returned a delegation stateid, we should just return a delegation stateid. > >> > >> Feel free to argue with me …. > > > > No, that makes sense I think. > > > > Would it be OK to just ignore WANT_OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION in this case, > > and return both an updated open stateid and the delegation stateid? > > That's probably the more desirable outcome (regardless of the "XOR" in > > the name). > > -- > > Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net> > > > It is a hint, none of the language states it MUST return one or the other. The only bother is that you have to provide a reason for ignoring it. Having said that, I doubt clients care what the reason is and I'll note that a client is being "dumb" if it uses the OPEN4_SHARE_ACCESS_WANT_OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION flag in this case. rick > > So yes, it is okay. > > Let me see if I can still add this text. > _______________________________________________ > nfsv4 mailing list -- nfsv4@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to nfsv4-leave@ietf.org
- [nfsv4] OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is existin… Jeff Layton
- [nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is exi… Rick Macklem
- [nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is exi… Rick Macklem
- [nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is exi… Thomas Haynes
- [nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is exi… Jeff Layton
- [nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is exi… Jeff Layton
- [nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is exi… Thomas Haynes
- [nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is exi… Thomas Haynes
- [nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is exi… Jeff Layton
- [nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is exi… Rick Macklem
- [nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is exi… Jeff Layton
- [nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is exi… Rick Macklem
- [nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is exi… Rick Macklem
- [nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is exi… Thomas Haynes
- [nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is exi… Rick Macklem
- [nfsv4] Re: OPEN_XOR_DELEGATION when there is exi… Rick Macklem