Return-Path: X-Original-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: nfsv4@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2534413218C for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 04:00:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.698 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.698 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fOwrZ81MFbxg for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 04:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io0-x22e.google.com (mail-io0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34E9213208E for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 04:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id m88so2332091iod.2 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 04:00:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=aaAaRBLyTsv+RcTTt5BqjRAZ8VJMw7w/aqXP4zJu36s=; b=u8LC2SugQ1EekUVSsvBYdtNqK6Tgb2Eoye37CZHSbz+iYZ7fmjD0UJnj6lllZODDKJ lyZI4UC2cLyar7OJlpUYl6144zrGxG7J17ZXoBK9EheifsOjCJUYUl8xV1Qtq2ykvBgf 6TueS3+kx+u6nP9W3ZNIkfxgxSl5oe50H6+p2SZzijwoM3LjSXky0CZZ2Dxv3e1mB1T5 7I7QvCSbQVonYovyTAicapg6e3mAjb7J29Lt4Tq7bcxI85bqdqQDr3RCadtvWPJEjQqM hOPXwvjmwT4b1oJ0PIcHYczpn3YtERysATQLd1L68tzqiUYUrEowSTtwCQFIoQl0ZfW7 TgNA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=aaAaRBLyTsv+RcTTt5BqjRAZ8VJMw7w/aqXP4zJu36s=; b=MpjhSAERXtMK5ZeFWJj8rm3SGjeWSjfF+yc0sDfixxAgCvWLaz8HctK/8ps9p8KqoY J8NUazfg4ovti4V5zxfhkOYt4Cu3IjnGdmmKuH8TryZjmtcZyYlnPh5bYtHI4sUDg3wd rRH4qFo1buyVFmLl87X4jlsNG3FjUneKtWKqd5zf3y2OlkYtem6tUiAOCyqXCIVO8RPk ARM/yElkkpK+k9oFlELdSzqK3XRNrsrGwdoZvW8UuINt0ZZkxYcSvf9AQKKYJiDDlhcs UXDASgSTTs3DBh7VUMhTViTV7kJ9xxdu61UcdUqhBRpXCNeAyK5RD1mWd/CkB8gHFsmN yzqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw1129p0/D8x43SxFLsV0wk072Ulrk03m6cD59YH6AK2sFnH0UhkXj 37TZjx/3+DLUzpoXuERYn/I2LV513Q== X-Received: by 10.107.29.76 with SMTP id d73mr21187299iod.211.1502794827387; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 04:00:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.142.72 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Aug 2017 04:00:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <150214681284.12459.7958419961024288184@ietfa.amsl.com> <01E22DE7-123E-4765-908E-AF79FD8E4C5E@primarydata.com> From: David Noveck Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 07:00:26 -0400 Message-ID: To: spencer shepler Cc: Thomas Haynes , "nfsv4@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11409da2db589d0556c8af14" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [nfsv4] I-D Action: draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-13.txt X-BeenThere: nfsv4@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: NFSv4 Working Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:00:31 -0000 --001a11409da2db589d0556c8af14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" There is a need to adress the issue of a last call for flex-files-13. I previously suggested extending the -12 LC to encompass the -13 and ending on 8/21, but Spencer on 8/8 responded:. > Thanks for the suggestion, Dave. However, we will let the timer run on the current last call (ends on Friday). > Once that is complete, we will start another last call on the version of the I-D that is available then. Since that last call ended on 8/11, the version available now is -13.so we have to start that new last call. > Note that this is always the case - if there has been enough change during a last call to warrant another round, then we do another last call. Not a big deal. I think it is pretty clear that there has been enough change. If there is anyone who disagrees, please speak up.. The only remaIning issue is the the end date. I previously proposed a two-week last call period to enable me to do a comprehensive review. Others might want to focus on the security changes in -13 but I skipped a comprehensive review of -12 because it was always pretty clear there would have to be a -13. Two weeks from today would be 8/29. However, it may be simpler to make the end date the following Fridiay, which is 9/1. Is Tom and the rest of the working group OK with that end date for the -13 WGLC? On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:26 PM, spencer shepler wrote: > > > Thanks for the suggestion, Dave. However, we will let the timer run on > the current last call (ends on Friday). > > Once that is complete, we will start another last call on the version of > the I-D that is available then. > > Note that this is always the case - if there has been enough change during > a last call to warrant another round, then we do another last call. Not a > big deal. > > Spencer > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 3:16 AM, David Noveck wrote: > >> I can't see reviewing this by 8/11. I think we will need to reset the >> WGLC clock. >> >> I thibk it should be extended to 8/21 to give us two weeks to review the >> new draft. Other opinions? >> >> In any case, Spencer S should announce a new date, so everybody is in >> sync. >> >> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 8:09 PM, Thomas Haynes >> wrote: >> >>> This is a result of the earlier reviews in the WGLC and a desire for an >>> update by said reviewers. >>> >>> > On Aug 7, 2017, at 4:00 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >>> directories. >>> > This draft is a work item of the Network File System Version 4 WG of >>> the IETF. >>> > >>> > Title : Parallel NFS (pNFS) Flexible File Layout >>> > Authors : Benny Halevy >>> > Thomas Haynes >>> > Filename : draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-13.txt >>> > Pages : 40 >>> > Date : 2017-08-07 >>> > >>> > Abstract: >>> > The Parallel Network File System (pNFS) allows a separation between >>> > the metadata (onto a metadata server) and data (onto a storage >>> > device) for a file. The flexible file layout type is defined in this >>> > document as an extension to pNFS which allows the use of storage >>> > devices in a fashion such that they require only a quite limited >>> > degree of interaction with the metadata server, using already >>> > existing protocols. Client side mirroring is also added to provide >>> > replication of files. >>> > >>> > >>> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files/ >>> > >>> > There are also htmlized versions available at: >>> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-13 >>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-13 >>> > >>> > A diff from the previous version is available at: >>> > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-13 >>> > >>> > >>> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >>> submission >>> > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >>> > >>> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >>> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > nfsv4 mailing list >>> > nfsv4@ietf.org >>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4 >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nfsv4 mailing list >>> nfsv4@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4 >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nfsv4 mailing list >> nfsv4@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4 >> >> > --001a11409da2db589d0556c8af14 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There is a need to adr= ess the issue of a last call for flex-files-13.=C2=A0

I previously suggested extending the -12 LC to encompass the -13 and e= nding on 8/21, but Spencer on 8/8 responded:.

> Th= anks for the suggestion, Dave.=C2=A0 However, we will let the timer run on = the current last call (ends on Friday).

> Once that = is complete, we will start another last call on the version of the I-D that= is available then.
Since that last call end= ed on 8/11, the version available now is -13.so we have to start that new l= ast call. =C2=A0

>=C2=A0Note that this is always the case - if there has been enoug= h change during a last call to warrant another round, then we do another la= st call.=C2=A0 Not a big deal.

I think it is pret= ty clear that there has been enough change.=C2=A0 If there is anyone who di= sagrees, please speak up..
=
The only remaIning iss= ue is the=C2=A0the end date.=C2=A0 I = previously proposed a two-week last call period to enable me to do=C2=A0
a comprehensive review.=C2=A0= Others might want to=C2=A0focus on t= he security changes in -13 but I skipped a comprehensive=C2=A0
=
review=C2=A0of -12 because it was always pretty clear there would=C2=A0have to be a -13.

Two weeks from today would be 8/29.=C2=A0 However, it may be simpler to m= ake the end date the following Fridiay, which is 9/1.
Is Tom and the rest of the working group OK with= that end date for the -13 WGLC?


<= /div>

= On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 2:26 PM, spencer shepler <spencer.shepler@g= mail.com> wrote:


Thanks for the suggestion, Dave= .=C2=A0 However, we will let the timer run on the current last call (ends o= n Friday).

Once that is complete, we will start an= other last call on the version of the I-D that is available then.

Note that this is always the case - if there has been enoug= h change during a last call to warrant another round, then we do another la= st call.=C2=A0 Not a big deal.

Spencer

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 3:16 AM, David Noveck <= ;davenoveck@gmail= .com> wrote:
I can't see reviewing this by 8/11.=C2=A0 I think we will need to re= set the WGLC clock.

I thibk it should be extended =C2=A0= to 8/21 to give us two weeks to review the new draft.=C2=A0 Other opinions?=

In any case, Spencer S should announce a new date= , so everybody is in sync.
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 8:09 PM, Thomas Haynes <= span dir=3D"ltr"><loghyr@primarydata.com> wrote:
This is a result of the earlier reviews in the WGLC and a desire = for an update by said reviewers.

> On Aug 7, 2017, at 4:00 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts dir= ectories.
> This draft is a work item of the Network File System Version 4 WG of t= he IETF.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Title=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0: Parallel NFS (pNFS) Flexible File Layout
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Authors=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0: = Benny Halevy
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thomas Haynes
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Filename=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 : draft-= ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-13.txt
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Pages=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0: 40
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Date=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 : 2017-08-07
>
> Abstract:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0The Parallel Network File System (pNFS) allows a separatio= n between
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0the metadata (onto a metadata server) and data (onto a sto= rage
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0device) for a file.=C2=A0 The flexible file layout type is= defined in this
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0document as an extension to pNFS which allows the use of s= torage
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0devices in a fashion such that they require only a quite l= imited
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0degree of interaction with the metadata server, using alre= ady
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0existing protocols.=C2=A0 Client side mirroring is also ad= ded to provide
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0replication of files.
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files/
>
> There are also htmlized versions available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draf= t-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-13
> https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/doc/html/draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-13
>
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?= url2=3Ddraft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-13
>
>
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of subm= ission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. >
> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>
> _______________________________________________
> nfsv4 mailing list
> nfsv4@ietf.org=
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nfsv4=
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