Re: [nfsv4] rfc5666bis and rpcrdma-bidirection progress update

[David Noveck <[e-mail]>]

Perhaps we can revisit your suggestions when some of the documents
currently in WGLC (three!) require shepherding.  For a very long time,
Spencer has been the only person doing shepherding and I don't feel
that this situation can go on forever.

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Benjamin Kaduk <[e-mail]> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 12:32:58PM -0500, David Noveck wrote:
> >
> > We've tried reminders and Chuck did remove unnecessary work.  However,
> the
> > IETF rules don't appear to allow changing ownership of the task of
> > producing a wrIteup.  If you think that is appropriate, then perhaps you
> > should investigate it.  Given that there is a bunch of other documents
> that
>
> The "IETF rules" (insamuch as there are rules) do allow for changing the
> document shepherd after assignment, and for non-WG-chair document
> shepherds.
> The chairs have a fair amount of latitude in assigning shepherds, as I
> understand it.
> We've been having similar problems with a backlog of documents in the
> kitten
> WG, and recently had a contributor volunteer some time to help shepherd
> documents, which has made a big difference.
>
> >
> > True, but there is a significant portion of the process where we wind up
> > waiting for action by the WG chair, and for these documents, that has
> been
> > a considerable portion of the delay.  Is there a viable way to spread out
> > this work better?
>
> Bringing in non-chair document shepherds might help, and there is also
> some possibility (in terms process) of adding a third co-chair, if there
> are suitable candidates and the current chairs/AD are amenable.
>
> Ultimately, it comes down to finding someone willing to do the work who
> has time; shepherding is some of the least glorious work (you don't even
> get your name on the final RFC!), but is still an important part of
> the document lifecycle.
>
> I see that the two documents in the subject have already been submitted
> for publication, so maybe there is no longer an immediate need, but it
> still seemed worth pointint out that there are a few options in this space.
>
> -Ben
>