Re: [nfsv4] RFC 7530: Filehandle of opened file after the REMOVE

Marcel Telka <marcel@telka.sk> Tue, 13 December 2016 17:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] RFC 7530: Filehandle of opened file after the REMOVE
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Citát Trond Myklebust <trondmy@gmail.com>:

> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Marcel Telka <marcel@telka.sk> wrote:
>
>> Citát David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> And, ... what implementors do now with RFC 7530?  If they want to support
>>>> the unix semantics they need to follow the note above albeit it is not
>>>> written in the RFC.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Some implementors already do this, and your note won't affect them.
>>>
>>> The problem is with those that don't.  Why would your note cause them to
>>> change course?  I think they will basically figure that clients are going
>>>
>>
>> My note will suggest them that if they want the unix semantics they will
>> be clearly instructed what they need to implement.
>>
>
> That's hilarious...

Please elaborate.



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