Re: [nfsv4] Eric Rescorla's Discuss on draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-15: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Tom Haynes <loghyr@gmail.com> Wed, 24 January 2018 22:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] Eric Rescorla's Discuss on draft-ietf-nfsv4-flex-files-15: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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> On Jan 24, 2018, at 1:48 PM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
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> I concur with Kathleen's discuss. To put a finer point on it, I think the
> security considerations section here needs to really clearly state what the
> security properties of this design are and how they differ from existing NFS.
> That's not true yes.


Could you please clarify the last sentence?

That’s not true yet.

Or:

That’s not true, yes?

If yet, then hopefully pushing the next version will suffice.

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> - I'm a bit confused on whether the client can tell which model the server is using. I see:
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>   An implementation can always be deployed as a loosely coupled model.
>   There is however no way for a storage device to indicate over a NFS
>   protocol that it can definitively participate in a tightly coupled
>   model:
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> But then there is a flag that you use to indicate you are tightly coupled. So I'm confused.
> 

Ah, the flag ffdv_tightly_coupled is used between the metadata server
and the client. Not between the storage device and the metadata server.



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> - I note that some of your PDUs have /// in front and some do not. E.g., Section 5. Is that a bug.
> 

No, the ones with a /// are to be extracted and the other ones refer to existing fragments
from other IDs. So for example, the one in Section 5 is referring to RFC5662.



> - S 2.2.
> " Note: it is recommended to implement common access control methods at"
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> Do you want RECOMMENDED.

Yes, this was pointed out by Brian Weis in the SecDir review.


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