[nfsv4] feedback on draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioning-07
Mike Kupfer <mike.kupfer@oracle.com> Tue, 25 October 2016 20:54 UTC
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Subject: [nfsv4] feedback on draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioning-07
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Potential technical issues:
* Section 5.1, first bullet item: this bullet item seems to imply that
any string-related changes must be done in a minor version, rather
than an extension. That's fine for the broad rules (e.g., i18n) that
this bullet item seems to have in mind, but I think we should be able
to extend a list of known literal strings in an extension. We don't
typically bake literal strings into the NFS specification, but we do
use them occasionally (e.g., "nobody", as well as the special ACE
identifiers like "OWNER@").
(Sorry about just getting this out now--I missed it in previous
reviews of my notes.)
* Section 9.2: after thinking about this some more, I'm still unsure on
how things will work if the client implements only the uncorrected
version and the server implements only the corrected version. The
client asks if the server supports minor version X and the server says
yes. At this point the client could ask about a correction to feature
FOO, but it doesn't know about any such correction. Since the client
doesn't ask, the server might then be able to deduce that the client
only supports the uncorrected version, but now it's too late--the
server has already said it supports minor version X. The first time
the client will find out about the incompatibility is when it tries to
use the uncorrected version of the feature and gets an error back from
the server.
It seems like the server must support both the uncorrected and
corrected versions of the feature. It can only drop support for the
uncorrected version with the next minor version.
Minor editorial stuff:
* Section 1, penultimate paragraph: the current wording seems to imply
that the XDR extensions approach will be able to handle all protocol
corrections. I would change "to make other sorts of changes" to "when
needed".
* Section 1, last paragraph: change "is provide" to "is to provide"
* Page 5, last bullet item: change "subsequently" to "up to that time"
* Page 6, lines 4-5: change "it is the set is" to "it is"
* Page 6, last paragraph of Section 2.3: the last sentence of that
paragraph bothers me, as it just echoes the first sentence of the
previous paragraph. Maybe replace the first sentence of the previous
paragraph with
Each client and server which implements a specific minor version
will implement some particular variant of that minor version. Each
variant is a subset of the current minor version and a superset of
the base minor version.
and drop the last paragraph completely?
* Page 7, third bullet item, sentence starting with "In particular": add
a comma after "all previously specified minor versions".
* Page 9, second bullet item: change "operation codes" to "procedures".
* Page 9, third bullet item: change "RPC operations" to "RPC procedures,
operation codes".
* Section 4.3, penultimate paragraph: remove the comma after "protocol
elements".
* Page 11, second bullet item: change "subsequent minor version" to
"subsequent minor versions" (add "s")
* Page 11, paragraph starting with "For many minor versions": change the
first sentence to
For many minor versions, all existing protocol elements are required
to be known by both the client and the server, and so requesters do
not have to test for the presence or absence of knowledge regarding
optional protocol elements.
* Page 13, bullet item at the top of the page, sentence starting with
"The client can determine which of the extensions": change to
The client can use the approach described in Section 4.4.3 to
determine which of the extensions it knows about are also known by
the server.
* Section 4.5, first paragraph: change "fields." to "fields that are"
* Section 5, first paragraph: add a period at the end of the paragraph.
* Page 16, last bullet item: change "indicated non-support a flag bit"
to "indicating non-support of a flag bit".
* Page 17, last paragraph: "OPTONAL" -> "OPTIONAL"
* Section 9, first paragraph: add a comma after "acceptance of that feature"
* Section 9, 2nd paragraph, first sentence:
Such corrections are best done in a document obsoleting or updating
the RFC defining the relevant feature definition document or minor
version specification.
I think there are too many words here. We could refer to "the RFC
defining the relevant feature or minor version". Or we could refer to
the "relevant feature definition document or minor version
specification".
* Section 9.1, 2nd bullet item: change "appropriate" to "appropriate way"
* Page 20, 2nd bullet item: change "feature, be considered obsolescent"
to "feature be considered obsolescent"
* Page 20, paragraph starting with "By doing things this way": I would
drop the bullet list that follows this paragraph and replace the
paragraph with
By doing things this way, a requester can determine whether the
other host supports a particular version of the feature. As a
result, the protocol with the XDR modification can accommodate
clients and servers that support either the corrected or the
uncorrected version of the protocol, as well as clients and servers
that support both alternatives.
* Section 9.2 title: should "required" be all uppercase?
Okay, that's everything I have flagged in my notes.
mike
- [nfsv4] feedback on draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioning-07 Mike Kupfer
- Re: [nfsv4] feedback on draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioni… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] feedback on draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioni… Mike Kupfer
- Re: [nfsv4] feedback on draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioni… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] feedback on draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioni… J. Bruce Fields
- Re: [nfsv4] feedback on draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioni… Mike Kupfer
- Re: [nfsv4] feedback on draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioni… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] feedback on draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioni… Mike Kupfer
- Re: [nfsv4] feedback on draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioni… J. Bruce Fields
- Re: [nfsv4] feedback on draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioni… David Noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] feedback on draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioni… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] feedback on draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioni… Fields Bruce James
- Re: [nfsv4] feedback on draft-ietf-nfsv4-versioni… David Noveck