Re: [nfsv4] RFC 7530: Filehandle of opened file after the REMOVE

Trond Myklebust <trondmy@gmail.com> Tue, 13 December 2016 17:43 UTC

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From: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 12:43:36 -0500
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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] RFC 7530: Filehandle of opened file after the REMOVE
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On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Marcel Telka <marcel@telka.sk> wrote:

>
> Citát Trond Myklebust <trondmy@gmail.com>om>:
>
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> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Marcel Telka <marcel@telka.sk> wrote:
>>
>> Citát David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com>om>:
>>>
>>> And, ... what implementors do now with RFC 7530?  If they want to support
>>>>
>>>>> the unix semantics they need to follow the note above albeit it is not
>>>>> written in the RFC.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Some implementors already do this, and your note won't affect them.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is with those that don't.  Why would your note cause them to
>>>> change course?  I think they will basically figure that clients are
>>>> going
>>>>
>>>>
>>> My note will suggest them that if they want the unix semantics they will
>>> be clearly instructed what they need to implement.
>>>
>>>
>> That's hilarious...
>>
>
> Please elaborate.
>
>
RFC7530 was never intended to serve as the basis for a new standard; it was
an update of RFC3530 and was proposed solely in order to make the
description of the NFSv4 spec comply with the existing implementations. The
main requirement was that we must not change the wire protocol unless there
was mismatch between the spec and the implementations.

Now you're asking for a change to a 13 year old protocol for which there
has not been a new implementation in almost a decade. Are you writing an
implementation of this change?