Re: [nfsv4] I-D Action:draft-ietf-nfsv4-ipv4v6-00.txt

["Spencer Shepler" <[e-mail]>]

I believe that Sorin and I sorted this out off-list.
There are separate issues/items and I believe I have the
WG agenda updated to reflect this fact.  If not, please
let me know.

Spencer


> -----Original Message-----
> From: sfaibish [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 1:12 PM
> To: Spencer Shepler; 'Thomas Haynes'
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [nfsv4] I-D Action:draft-ietf-nfsv4-ipv4v6-00.txt
> 
> I had the intention to start a discussion and there it is a WG draft
> before I had the chance to post the discussion we had at BAT.
> I want to be sure that we all understand and address the same issue.
> Thanks
> 
> /Sorin
> 
> On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:59:17 -0400, Spencer Shepler
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Sorin,
> >
> > Is the information or position you plan to present unsuitable for
> > the initial discussion via the WG alias?  My preference is that
> > we start here and finish at the WG meeting to trim a few weeks
> > from closing on these items.
> >
> > Spencer
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf
> >> Of
> >> sfaibish
> >> Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 12:41 PM
> >> To: Thomas Haynes
> >> Cc: [e-mail]
> >> Subject: Re: [nfsv4] I-D Action:draft-ietf-nfsv4-ipv4v6-00.txt
> >>
> >> Tom and Spencer,
> >>
> >>
> >> I propose to have a discussion on this topic at the IETF meeting. 10
> >> minutes should be enough. I have a problem with pushing this to 4.2
> when
> >> we may need to address the issue sooner.
> >>
> >> /Sorin
> >>
> >> On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 15:28:05 -0400, Thomas Haynes <[e-mail]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Minor nits:
> >> >
> >> > Page 7:
> >> >
> >> >         same server identifier.  An example of well generated server
> >> >         identifier can be the one that includes the following:
> >> >    (c)
> >> >         (a)  a) MAC address
> >> >         (b)  b) Machine serial number
> >> >
> >> > I would expect these items to be part of (b) above (The ':' gives me
> >> > that expectation).
> >> >
> >> > I find the (a) a) to be confusing.
> >> >
> >> > ----
> >> >
> >> > Page 10:
> >> >
> >> >    instead of the client IP address, for the indexing, as explained
> >> here
> >> >    -
> >> >
> >> >    As mentioned in Client Identification (Section 6) -
> >> >
> >> >    The client SHOULD always send the same client string, irrespective
> >> > of I can't tell if this is bad formatting or if two paragraphs are
> >> missing.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----
> >> >
> >> >    There are scenarios where NFS implementations need to store IP
> >> >    addresses in persistent storage, like -
> >> >
> >> >    NSM monitor/notify database.
> >> >
> >> >    persistent reply cache.
> >> >
> >> > I believe you want this lettered.
> >> >
> >> > -------
> >> >
> >> > A larger question on the draft as a whole would be whether we could
> >> > add some additional operations to NFSv4.2 to get rid of the guessing.
> >> > I.e., could a client send a server a list of IPv4 and IPv6 addresses
> >> > that it is using and in return the server respond with the
> equivalence
> >> > addresses that it is using?
> >> >
> >> > One issue I can see is that the machines might be on different
> subnets
> >> > that use the same IP addresses. I.e., 192.168.2.14 on the filer's e0a
> >> > might be a different private subnet than the 192.168.2.15 on the
> >> > client's e1.
> >> >
> >> > ---------
> >> >
> >> > Finally, it is understated, so I think you should bring more
> attention
> >> > to it, but the problem you deal with in Section 6 applies to
> symmetric
> >> > single stack mode topologies as well. I.e., all current multi-homed
> >> > IPv4 deployments.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best Regards
> >>
> >> Sorin Faibish
> >> Corporate Distinguished Engineer
> >> Unified Storage Division
> >>          EMC²
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> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Best Regards
> 
> Sorin Faibish
> Corporate Distinguished Engineer
> Unified Storage Division
>          EMC²
> where information lives
> 
> Phone: [phone]
> Cellphone: 617-510-0422
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