Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in 2011
Thomas Haynes <thomas@netapp.com> Mon, 11 October 2010 22:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in 2011
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I've had some offline discussions and it appears that I may not have been clear enough on the proposal for Paris. The question is whether or not we believe enough people/companies will be present to have an interesting mix of implementations in order to be effective in testing? (And yes, the whole utility is not testing, but it is a close enough yardstick.) We typically have 3 people present at each BakeAThon from Europe or Israel. We happened to have 4 this time. We have 3 or 4 people outside of those who have been vocal in the past about having the event in Paris. We even proposed that the BAT that was held in Ann Arbor be held in Paris this year. That never gained any real traction. I count that there might have been 30 people testing in Boston - there were more who showed up for talks or who were registered but did not attend. I think a normal attendance number is 20 people. In the past, we have had just one BAT in a year because the worth was low - it wasn't a matter of cost, but because we didn't have enough to test. I actually thought we were going to only have one BAT in 2010, but the Linux developers in particular wanted the second event. And we have certainly seen organizations manage cost by reducing attendance. So if organizations commit to sending some developers, but not all, what is the minimal mass in both technologies and people we need to be effective? I don't know the answers, but I do not want to see a BAT fail because there is not enough representation and then see a drop off in attendance in the next event. So why don't we gather some data: 1) Do you plan to attend the June 2011 BAT if it is in Paris? 2) Do you plan to attend the June 2011 BAT if it is at CITI? 3) If you said yes to both, which one do you think you would get the most worth from? 4) Did you attend the June 2010 BAT at CITI? I'm asking you to answer as an individual and not as a company. But please remember you need to secure funding from your company. I.e., don't say yes to Paris because you want to visit it, say yes if you know you will most likely be present. Also, if normally two of you from your company attend and you know that your management will only support one going to Paris, please reflect that in your responses. If you don't feel comfortable replying to list, just send your reply to me.
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- [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in 2011 Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Benny Halevy
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… sfaibish
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… sfaibish
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Steve Dickson
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Mike Eisler
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… J. Bruce Fields
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… david.noveck
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Erasani, Pranoop
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Benny Halevy
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… David Rhodus
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Mkrtchyan, Tigran
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Trond Myklebust
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Rick Macklem
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Benny Halevy
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Sorin Faibish
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Erasani, Pranoop
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Thomas Haynes
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… sfaibish
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Sandeep Joshi
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Steve Dickson
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… sfaibish
- Re: [nfsv4] Potential schedules for BakeAThons in… Tigran Mkrtchyan