Re: [nfsv4] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpc-tls-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> Wed, 16 September 2020 02:12 UTC

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From: David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 22:11:55 -0400
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To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpc-tls@ietf.org, nfsv4-chairs <nfsv4-chairs@ietf.org>, NFSv4 <nfsv4@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [nfsv4] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpc-tls-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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I think that's fine but it is really up to Ben.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020, 9:25 AM Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com> wrote:

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> On Sep 14, 2020, at 6:46 PM, David Noveck <davenoveck@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 12:50 PM Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com> wrote:
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>> Hi Ben-
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>> I'm nearly done with the new text. I need some clarification below.
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>> > On Jul 8, 2020, at 2:56 AM, Benjamin Kaduk via Datatracker <
>> noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
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>> > Section 8.1
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>> > Isn't it codepoint squatting to claim auth flavor 7 before IANA has
>> > allocated it?  (This is usually a Discuss-level issue, but that part is
>> too
>> > long already so I left it here.)
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>> I agree it is slightly improper, but the authors were not aware of
>> IANA's authority over RPC authentication flavors until late in the
>> document's life cycle. It was a good faith oversight.
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> I think everyone  accepts that.
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>> I believe we have IANA's permission at this point to use the value 7.
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> It's best to ask them.  If they don't agree, we can ask for an early
> allocation.
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> Quoting from IANA review of draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpc-tls in late May:
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> (BEGIN IANA COMMENTS)
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> IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:
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> The IANA Functions Operator has completed its review of
> draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpc-tls-07. If any part of this review is inaccurate,
> please let us know.
>
> The IANA Functions Operator understands that, upon approval of this
> document, there are two actions which we must complete.
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> First, in the RPC Authentication Flavor Numbers registry on the Remote
> Procedure Call (RPC) Authentication Numbers registry page located at:
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> https://www.iana.org/assignments/rpc-authentication-numbers/
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> a single, new registration will be made as follows:
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> Identifier String: AUTH_TLS
> Flavor Name: TLS
> Value: [ TBD-at-Registration ]
> Description: Signals the use of TLS to protect RPC messages on
> socket-based transports.
> Reference: [ RFC-to-be ]
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> IANA notes that the authors have requested a value of 7 for this
> registration.
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> "Permission to use" was admittedly a little strong. But they are aware of
> our use of 7 and according to the above registry, it is still unassigned.
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>> Is there a text change needed here?
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> There might be.
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> --
> Chuck Lever
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