[nfsv4] Re: Gunter Van de Velde's Discuss on draft-ietf-nfsv4-layoutwcc-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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From: "Gunter van de Velde (Nokia)" <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com>
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Hi Murray, That sounds what I assumed too, but what is not fully accurately documented in the text. Maybe something in the style of below is more accurate? “ The lowa_type value must correspond to an existing entry in the IANA 'pNFS Layout Types Registry' and does not require a new registration. ” G/ From: Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 7:46 AM To: Gunter van de Velde (Nokia) <gunter.van_de_velde@nokia.com> Cc: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>; draft-ietf-nfsv4-layoutwcc@ietf.org; nfsv4-chairs@ietf.org; nfsv4@ietf.org; inacio@cert.org Subject: Re: Gunter Van de Velde's Discuss on draft-ietf-nfsv4-layoutwcc-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) CAUTION: This is an external email. Please be very careful when clicking links or opening attachments. See the URL nok.it/ext for additional information. On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 4:57 AM Gunter Van de Velde via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org<mailto:noreply@ietf.org>> wrote: #DISCUSS #======= # In the IANA section is written that there is no action required, but line 244 and 245 seem to indicate that there is a code point allocated for lowa_type. Maybe i got confused and misunderstood the text, or maybe the needs to describe the intent more accurate for NFS unware people as myself? 244 The lowa_type is defined to be a value from the IANA registry for 245 'pNFS Layout Types Registry'. I think what they mean is: The "lowa_type" value is expected to be a value that was previously added to this registry, not that it's making a new registration. -MSK
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