Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal

Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de> Fri, 07 September 2007 15:01 UTC

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From: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>
To: Andy Bierman <ietf@andybierman.com>
Subject: Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal
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On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 06:20:52AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote:

>> I guess I do not really understand the difference between "an SMI
>> document is needed that addresses many details that need to be
>> supported for long-term module management, and interoperability
>> between modules" and a new DML which would be an experiment.
>
> How is a module allowed to change over time?
> What does the use of the same namespace URI over time mean?
> How does the manager discover modules and versions?
> How does a manager compare versions?
> How does a manager know the difference between
> a read-create row and a read-only row (or column)?
> How does a manager know what an agent is supposed to
> implement to claim a certain level of conformance?
>
> These are some of the open issues that NETCONF needs to
> address, just as SMIv2 addresses these issues for the SNMP protocol.

It remains to a large extend unclear to me how one can work out all
these things without having defined what a module is, what a module
contains, what a notion of a row is (do we still have the notion of
rows in NETCONF?), what the versioning aspects of making changes to
things are, and what conformance actually means. But if I am the only
one who is puzzled, just ignore me.

/js

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