Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal
"tom.petch" <cfinss@dial.pipex.com> Wed, 12 September 2007 10:57 UTC
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To: Andy Bierman <ietf@andybierman.com>, Phil Shafer <phil@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Shafer" <phil@juniper.net> To: "Andy Bierman" <ietf@andybierman.com> Cc: "NETCONF Goes On" <ngo@ietf.org> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal <snip> > >I am quite frustrated with the progress that we have had using XSD. > >At a previous WG meeting, Simon asked people who did not understand XSD > >to abstain from a straw poll. The count was 3 for, 3 against, 40+ abstain. > > But _all_ the votes where single digit for/against. My worry is > that this is a sign that folks have completely lost interest. Which > would be very bad news. > Phil No, not lack of interest. A year ago, I would have abstained but in the interim, I decided I needed to master XSD and so have. Ditto XPath, so earlier this year, I could see, from my general language knowledge, that an XPath expression was malformed - now I could put it right. So were I at the meeting, I would not have abstained. It takes time for skills to be seen to be needed and then time for them to be acquired; what prompted me was partly the work in the IETF but as much the number of courses being offered by commercial trainers. If others are acquiring the skills, I need to too. (Of course, there is always the time I spent on OSI in 1986-1988 for which I still look forward to the payback). Tom Petch > Thanks, > Phil > > > _______________________________________________ > NGO mailing list > NGO@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ngo _______________________________________________ NGO mailing list NGO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ngo
- [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Tomoyuki Iijima
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Phil Shafer
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal tom.petch
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal tom.petch
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal tom.petch
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal tom.petch
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal tom.petch
- RE: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- RE: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka