Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal
Andy Bierman <ietf@andybierman.com> Fri, 07 September 2007 15:31 UTC
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Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote: > On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 06:20:52AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote: > >>> I guess I do not really understand the difference between "an SMI >>> document is needed that addresses many details that need to be >>> supported for long-term module management, and interoperability >>> between modules" and a new DML which would be an experiment. >> How is a module allowed to change over time? >> What does the use of the same namespace URI over time mean? >> How does the manager discover modules and versions? >> How does a manager compare versions? >> How does a manager know the difference between >> a read-create row and a read-only row (or column)? >> How does a manager know what an agent is supposed to >> implement to claim a certain level of conformance? >> >> These are some of the open issues that NETCONF needs to >> address, just as SMIv2 addresses these issues for the SNMP protocol. > > It remains to a large extend unclear to me how one can work out all > these things without having defined what a module is, what a module > contains, what a notion of a row is (do we still have the notion of > rows in NETCONF?), what the versioning aspects of making changes to > things are, and what conformance actually means. But if I am the only > one who is puzzled, just ignore me. I guess my draft is unclear then. These things need to be defined for NETCONF, just as they have been defined for SNMP. I think many protocol interoperability details, such as the <rpc-error> contents, <edit-config> behavior, should be defined in better detail as well. A table row in XML is just a complex element with multiple instances, and there is a key defined for identifying entries. It is a conceptual row. > > /js > Andy _______________________________________________ NGO mailing list NGO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ngo
- [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Tomoyuki Iijima
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Phil Shafer
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal tom.petch
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal tom.petch
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal tom.petch
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal tom.petch
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal tom.petch
- RE: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- RE: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka