Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal
Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@cesnet.cz> Sun, 23 September 2007 11:02 UTC
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Subject: Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal
From: Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@cesnet.cz>
To: Balazs Lengyel <balazs.lengyel@ericsson.com>
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Hi Balasz, the main reason is the stunning nxml mode for emacs that does autocompletion, on-the-fly validation etc. I tend to agree though that the best way of presenting schemas in RFCs would be the compact format as it would be accessible to a broader community almost without any a priori explanation. A useful extension of the method I described in draft-lhotka-relaxng-to-rfc-00 could thus be to transform the annotated input schema (in XML syntax, exactly as described in the draft) into xml2rfc XML but present the RELAX NG blobs in the compact syntax. Cheers, Lada Balazs Lengyel píše v Čt 20. 09. 2007 v 18:03 +0200: > Hello Ladislav, > Why did you choose to use the XML format of RelaxNG? I was always told that the compact format > is much nicer. > Balazs > > Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > Andy Bierman píše v St 12. 09. 2007 v 12:17 -0700: > >> I don't think that many people know RelaxNG. > >> When <appinfo> and <documentation> type of clauses are included, > >> it isn't so clean anymore. It may be just as hard to learn for > > > > RELAX NG allows application-specific info and documentation (in foreign > > namespaces) to be directly included in the schema, without any (clumsy) > > encapsulating elements. Here is an example: > > http://www.flowmon.org/flowmon-probe/devel/config/flowmon-rng/ > > (this HTML was compiled directly from a valid RELAX NG schema via XSLT) > > > >> people as XSD. It doesn't really deal with any NETCONF-specific > >> issues (like max-access and conceptual tables) any more than XSD. > > > > Maybe not, but at least it is relatively simple, extensible and based on > > a sound mathematical basis (labelled tree automata). See also > > http://www.imc.org/ietf-xml-use/mail-archive/msg00217.html > > > > Lada > > -- Ladislav Lhotka, CESNET PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C _______________________________________________ NGO mailing list NGO@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ngo
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- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
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- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
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- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Balazs Lengyel
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Balazs Lengyel
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- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Tomoyuki Iijima
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- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Phil Shafer
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
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- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal tom.petch
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Juergen Schoenwaelder
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal tom.petch
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
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- RE: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
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- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Ladislav Lhotka
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Andy Bierman
- Re: [NGO] NETCONF Data Modeling BoF (NDM) proposal Balazs Lengyel
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