Re: [nmrg] call for adoption as RG document : draft-cx-green-ps-02

Alexander Clemm <alex@futurewei.com> Tue, 30 May 2023 16:21 UTC

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From: Alexander Clemm <alex@futurewei.com>
To: Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>, Jérôme François <jerome.francois@inria.fr>
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Subject: Re: [nmrg] call for adoption as RG document : draft-cx-green-ps-02
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I support as coauthor as well.
I think the topic of green networking is relevant and gaining momentum.  We are not at the point where it is a pure engineering issue; there are many challenges and opportunities aka research questions that need to be addressed. The vast majority of these relate to management questions, hence I would consider NMRG as the proper home for this.
Thanks
--- Alex

From: nmrg <nmrg-bounces@irtf.org> On Behalf Of Jeff Tantsura
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To: Jérôme François <jerome.francois@inria.fr>
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Subject: Re: [nmrg] call for adoption as RG document : draft-cx-green-ps-02

Hi Jerome,

Support as co-author, the draft calls very a important subject, and rises attention to environmental consequences of the way we do networking.

Thanks,
Jeff


On May 26, 2023, at 5:46 PM, Jérôme François <jerome.francois@inria.fr<mailto:jerome.francois@inria.fr>> wrote:


(Replace previous email with wrong subject, sorry... )



Dear NMRG,



This message starts the call for adoption as RG document for:



Challenges and Opportunities in Management for Green Networking - draft-cx-green-ps-02

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-cx-green-ps

Please let us know if you support or not the work becoming a RG document.



In all cases, provide detailed comments to support your opinion and send them on the mailing list.



We are particularly interested in assessing the following aspects:



1.    NMRG being a *research* group it is important to articulate well the problem(s), challenge(s) and research questions.



2.    Is the scientific soundness of the draft satisfying? (quality of the scientific proposition, rigor of the method, impact) ; "the measure of success is the quality and impact of the research results" [RFC2014]



The procedure for RG document adoption and important criteria are detailed here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nmrg/CVEyLUvfxJk1Ud5WdM9Y5LGvQmU



The call for adoption is open for two weeks and ends on June 10th, 2023.



Best regards, NMRG chairs

Jérôme & Laurent

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