Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 interaction
Nat Ballou <NatBa@microsoft.com> Wed, 18 December 1996 21:47 UTC
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Subject: Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 interaction
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 13:40:28 -0800
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> From: USENET news manager <newsmaster@ucs.cam.ac.uk> > To: ietf-nntp@academ.com > Subject: Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 interaction > Date: Wednesday, December 18, 1996 11:43 AM > > [...] > > >3) Sender: During POST: if the NNTP server performs authentication (one > > of the AUTHINFO variants), it should set the Sender: to an emailable > > RFC822 address as returned by the authentication mechanisms. > > Having an authenticated username does not necessarily imply you can derive > a valid email address from it, as distinct from constructing something that > looks like an email address. > > Combining the username with the client system's hostname is definitely out > as a univerally sensible action, since in many situations it will simply not > make sense - e.g. posting from a Windows PC that will never listen for > incoming SMTP mail, or posting from a system of whatever type using a > per-session dynamically allocated IP address. Substituting an appropriate > mail domain instead of the client hostname is not necessarily an option, > either - with decentralised system management, news server usernames and > mail addresses on client systems would very likely be totally unrelated and > with no simple way (or no viable way) to derive one from the other. [In an > ideal world, it would be easy. This is not an ideal world...] Just to be clear ... I believe all we are talking about here is describing how the sender: line works today for a current practices doc. Granted, there are cases where even today, it is not of much use. However, I believe everyone agrees that the Sender: line (as defined above) does NOT belong in any RFC since not every authentication provider is able to derive an email name for an authenticated user. Nat Ballou Microsoft
- ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 interacti… Chris Lewis
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Rich Salz
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… USENET news manager
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Nat Ballou
- RE: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Ian King
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Evan Champion
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Evan Champion
- Sender header (was Re: ietf-nntp BCP ...) Chris Newman
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Evan Champion
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Rich Salz
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Evan Champion
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Brian Kantor
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Brian Kantor
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Evan Champion
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Jack De Winter
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… William H. Magill
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Brian Kantor
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Chris Lewis
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Chris Lewis
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Chris Lewis
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… lfirrantello
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Thomas 'Mike' Michlmayr
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Chris Lewis
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Nat Ballou
- ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 interacti… Chris Lewis
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Clive D.W. Feather
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Rich Salz
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Kenneth Herron
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Rich Salz
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… der Mouse
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Clive D.W. Feather
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Rich Salz
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Ade Lovett
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Brian Kantor
- POST, IHAVE, and header-munging (was Re: ietf-nnt… Ade Lovett
- NNTP-Posting-Host (was Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC9… Ade Lovett
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Rich Salz
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Ade Lovett
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Anne Bennett
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… der Mouse
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Ade Lovett
- ietf-nntp Announce: Mailing list for RFC 1036 upd… Simon Lyall
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… USENET news manager
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Ade Lovett
- Re: Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 i… Heiko W.Rupp
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Rich Salz
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… USENET news manager
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Rich Salz
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… der Mouse
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… Rich Salz
- Re: ietf-nntp BCP for RFC977 server/RFC1036 inter… der Mouse
- Re: ietf-nntp Announce: Mailing list for RFC 1036… Harald.T.Alvestrand
- Re: ietf-nntp Announce: Mailing list for RFC 1036… Brian Hernacki
- Re: ietf-nntp Announce: Mailing list for RFC 1036… Chris Lewis
- Re: ietf-nntp Announce: Mailing list for RFC 1036… Tom Killalea