Re: ietf-nntp New wording on article numbers
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Subject: Re: ietf-nntp New wording on article numbers
To: "Clive D.W. Feather" <clive@demon.net>
Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 02:49:13 +0000 (GMT)
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Clive D.W. Feather wrote: > The last article number MIGHT be less than the first article number. In I don't think that MIGHT should be in capitals. > * articles may be reinstated in the group with the same article number, > but those articles MUST have numbers no less than the first article > number in the response; There's a lot of wording taken up with this eventuality. I don't see the need to document it. Do you see a need for this to happen in practice? What difference does it actually make to NNTP clients? > When a subsequent GROUP command for the same newsgroup is issued, either > by the same client or a different client, the first and last article > numbers MUST be no less than those in the previous response for that > newsgroup. This is wrong. The last article number may quite possibly be less than that from a previous response for that group. The last article number is the highest number corresponding to a currently available article - it is *not* the high-water-mark. If there are articles 2, 3 and 4, then the highest article number is 4. Subsequently article 4 may be cancelled, and then the GROUP command must return 3 as the highest available article. > A previously invalid article number might become valid > if the article has been reinstated, but such an article number MUST be > no less than the "first" article number specified in the most recent > response to a GROUP command for that group. As mentioned above, I think this is unnecessary. Even if you do want this stuff in, I don't see a need for the condition that the article number MUST be no less than the first article number. Nearly all clients are going to miss the newly-reinstated article anyway. Cheers Jon ____ \ // Jon Ribbens // \// jon@oaktree.co.uk //
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