Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH extension internet-draft available
Jeff Coffler <jeffc@netmanage.com> Thu, 31 October 1996 17:32 UTC
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From: Jeff Coffler <jeffc@netmanage.com>
Subject: Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH extension
internet-draft available
To: Keith Moore <moore@cs.utk.edu>, Nat Ballou <natba@ims.microsoft.com>
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Rich Salz <rsalz@osf.org>
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I strongly disagree with your analysis. I think that, for reading news, NOTHING is as proven as NNTP is today. NNTP is routinely used to transfer perhaps billions of messages (when you consider all the news server machines on the Internet today) daily both between server to server and server to client. I see no reason that IMAP should replace NNTP. Perhaps it should augment it (such that servers of the future can answer on both ports), at the most, but certainly not replace. NNTP is very useful. And I, for one, applaude Stan's efforts to both document existing practices, and document extensions mechanisms. -- Jeff --- On Thu, 31 Oct 1996 01:00:02 -0500 Keith Moore <moore@cs.utk.edu> wrote: > > Would you elaborate? I was under the impression that it would > > be desirable for many clients to use IMAP as a protocol to read > > newsgroups. > > I have the same impression. > > Mail and news are so similar that I have a difficult time justifying a > different search protocol for them -- or at least I haven't seen the > reasons to do so yet. > > I have a hard time justifying either the standards work or the > implementation of an enhanced news reader protocol when we're already > doing the work on a mail reading protocol which is more mature and has > proven its utility in reading news. It seems like we should either > standardize on IMAP as the news reading protocol of the future, or > come to some understanding as to why this is a Bad Idea. > > If IMAP is missing functionality that is required for news, might it > be better to extend it than to extend NNTP in this manner? (And might > that functionality also be useful for mail?) > > Even if we found that we needed to continue to have separate > protocols, when adding new facilities to NNTP, we should seriously > consider adopting IMAP-like ones where they exist. Why waste code? > > Keith > > > > ---------------End of Original Message-----------------
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Rich Salz
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Nat Ballou
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Keith Moore
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Stan Barber
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Keith Moore
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Terry Gray
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Brian Kantor
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Jeff Coffler
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Keith Moore
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Brian Hernacki
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Jeff Coffler
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Keith Moore
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Mike Macgirvin
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Mark Crispin
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Chris Newman
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Anthony Talltree
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Jack De Winter
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Brian Hernacki
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Brian Hernacki
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Nat Ballou
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Brian Hernacki
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Brian Kantor
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Nat Ballou
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Chris Newman
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Mark Crispin
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Jack De Winter
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Jack De Winter
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Jack De Winter
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Rich Salz
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Rich Salz
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Don Lewis
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Stan Barber
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… Chris Newman
- Re: nntp-extensions Re: ietf-nntp NNTP SEARCH ext… hostmaster