Re: ietf-nntp New wording on article numbers
"William H. Magill" <magill@isc.upenn.edu> Sat, 28 December 1996 17:23 UTC
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From: "William H. Magill" <magill@isc.upenn.edu>
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Subject: Re: ietf-nntp New wording on article numbers
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> > Article numbers MUST lie between 1 and 999999999 inclusive [this allows
> > one article per second for 31 years]. The client and server SHOULD NOT
> > use leading zeroes in specifying article numbers. If the server loses
> > record of the most recent article number in a group, it MUST reset to a
> > higher article number.
>
> I'd remove the part about one article per second for 31 years. It could
> be said that a million sites posting an article a day will use this range
> up in 3 years and it would be just as meaningless.
>
> If we're gonna stick to 32 bits, I'd say we should at least use the full
> 32 bits (1 to 4,294,967,295) to give us slightly more leg room. Our
> control.cancel is up to 4 million now and I expect it to pass a billion in
> a few years.
>
> If Usenet (as an example ;-) continues to grow as it has, we may eat this
> space pretty quickly in which case we either need to expand the range to
> 64 bits and/or precisely define how to handle rollovers. I'd love to see
> us do both, but I don't think I have much support in that department. Or
> do I?
>
Penn runs INN on an AXP 2100 under Digital Unix, so I'm all for 64 bits!
(http://www.upenn.edu/dccs/news/faq/faq-conf-server.html)
As for 1 article per second - we passed that mark almost 2 years ago.
We cleared 1.1 article per second back in April of 95.
(http://www.upenn.edu/dccs/news/status/historical.html)
This is a "slow week" - From Flowstats (24 hour periods):
12/27 126595 1.5 articles per-second
12/26 106432 1.2
12/25 81432 .9
12/24 108658 1.2
12/23 136902 1.5
12/21 125610 1.4
According to my last INN weekly report, for the period 12/17-12/23 we
"took" (via nntplink) 1,570,280 articles, roughly 2.5/second
And we don't even take most of the alt.* groups!
(Only 6548 non "upenn.*" entries in newsgroups).
T.T.F.N.
William H. Magill Senior Systems Administrator
Information Services and Computing (ISC) University of Pennsylvania
Internet: magill@isc.upenn.edu magill@acm.org
magill@upenn.edu http://pobox.upenn.edu/~magill/
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