FYI -- Printer MIB working group forming

Glenn Trewitt <trewitt@pa.dec.com> Fri, 19 November 1993 16:58 UTC

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From:    Joel Gyllenskog
To:      Broad distribution
Date:    November 18, 1993
Topic:   PrintMIB BOF minutes from Houston IETF


A meeting of the PrintMIB BOF was held Wednesday, November 3, 1993
from 1600-1800 at the IETF meeting in Houston.  The meeting was
chaired by Joel Gyllenskog of Hewlett-Packard.  Marshall Rose, the
Area Director was present.  Those that put their names on the roster 
which was circulated during the meeting were:

    Steve Zilles          szilles@adobe.com
    Bob Stewart           rlstewart@eng.xyplex.com
    Manuel Diaz           diaz@davidsys.com
    Jon Didner            jond@bangate.compaq.com
    Bill Cash             cash@bangate.compaq.com
    Melanie Humphrey      msh@uiuc.edu
    Chris Shaw            cshaw@banyan.com
    Timon Swane           timon@timonware.com
    Jim Barnes            barnes@xylogics.com
    Ronald Jacoby         rj@sgi.com
    Dean Throop           throop@dg-rtp.dg.com
    Alan Perelman         a_perelman@emulex.com
    Scott Kaplan          scott@ftp.com
    Andrew Knutsen        andrewk@sco.com
    Mike Scanlon          scanlon@ftp.com
    Steve Waldbusser      waldbusser@cmu.edu
    Jon Saperia           saperia@zko.dec.com
    Craig Whittle         cwhittle@bangate.compaq.com
    Christine Gressley    gressley@uiuc.edu
    Charley Kline         cvk@uiuc.edu
    Joel Gyllenskog       jgyllens@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
    Larry Masinter        masinter@parc.xerox.com
    Dave Lapp             lapp@waterloo.hp.com

Of the 23 whose names were on the roster, all but 5 asked to have
their names added to the mailing list.

The agenda as posted on the internet was presented.  Joel gave
a brief history of some of the changes in printing on LANs
over the past 5 years.  He presented rational as to why the
printer manufacturers have an interest in having their printers
be managable in a network environment.  He talked about other
efforts that have occured or that are underway including the 
DMTF printer team.  This group at representatives of 13 different
printer manufacturers at their October meeting, along with
representatives from other companies with an interest in the
use of printers.  The goal of the group is to specify a set
of objects that can be used to manage printers and to have that
set be the same for the DeskTop as for the network.  This 
desire is shared by members of COSE and DSIS.

A discussion of the potential number of objects that would fall
into a standard printer MIB was led by Marshall Rose, the Area
Director.  The sense of the group was that there will probably
be on the order of from 40 to 60 objects.  

Steve Waldbusser led a discussion of existing MIBs and how they 
may be used by printers.  This includes the Host MIB, MIB II,
and the character MIB.  Steve has indicated a willingness to
provide technical oversight to the group.

The idea was put forward that fonts, spooling, and print job
management are not part of the set that will be included in the
print MIB.  These areas are interesting and important, but 
their inclusion would add significantly to the effort of the
group and decrease the likelihood of a timely completion of the
MIB.

The areas that were discussed that the group felt could
profitably be included in a print MIB included:  Print Engine, 
Interpreters, Media, Input Sources, and Output Destinations.

Those present indicated the importance of using the net to allow
broad input and participation.

A discussion of the time schedule proposed resulted in a
recommendation that the Charter specify completion by the July
IETF meeting, but that the group work to accomplish the task by
May. 

The consensus of those in attendance was that a proposed
charter be given to the Area Director with the recommendation
that a print MIB Working Group be established.  

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