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Re: [Nsaas] Is it possible for individuals to avoid being monitored by Government agencies?

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Sat, 30 August 2014 02:35 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Nsaas] Is it possible for individuals to avoid being monitored by Government agencies?
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Quite a good consideration of this is in:

   Dragnet Nation: A Quest for Privacy, Security, and Freedom in a World
of Relentless Surveillance

   Julia Angwin

The Stanford interview with her, about the book, was quite excellent:

   http://juliaangwin.com/stanford-law-school-lecture/

d/

On 8/29/2014 2:02 PM, manning bill wrote:
> it is possible to dramatically reduce the monitoring surface of any
> given entity, however in todays environment, such avoidance comes at
> a significant cost.   If one is prepared to abandon electronic
> communications, a huge step forward in anonymity is taken.  One can
> not have ones cake and eat it also.
> 
> /bill PO Box 12317 Marina del Rey, CA 90295 310.322.8102
> 
> On 29August2014Friday, at 13:52, Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com>
>> wrote:
>>> There is a question on if it is possible for individuals to avoid
>>> being monitored by Government agencies. Does anyone know where to
>>> check?
>> 
>> It's not realistically possible for an individual who is being
>> targeted for monitoring by government agencies of any major
>> government to avoid being monitored.   It is (maybe) possible for
>> individuals who are not targeted to avoid being swept up in a
>> monitoring dragnet, if they are careful about how they communicate
>> online.


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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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