Re: [Nsaas] Some thoughts about SAAS

Hosnieh Rafiee <hosnieh.rafiee@huawei.com> Fri, 29 August 2014 08:03 UTC

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Linda,


> Are you saying having a way for customers to avoid being monitored by
> government?

Both government or any other surveillance agents.

> I can see the potential for customers to be notified when their traffic
> is actually monitored. But if government wants to monitor someone, can
> you avoid?

The answer is really difficult. But this raises the next questions that are whether or not this impacts on the standards? Whether or not it leads to having each country follow certain specifications and again there is problem for operators to offer service to customers or force to be limited to the service offered by their own country? Isn't it difficult to think about a unified framework?

Thanks,
Best,
Hosnieh