Re: [nscp] Updating zone *content* in-scope or not?

Lars-Johan Liman <liman@autonomica.se> Thu, 16 September 2010 22:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [nscp] Updating zone *content* in-scope or not?
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At 9:28 PM +0200 9/16/10, Lars-Johan Liman wrote:
>> I agree with Stéphane that there are already standardized mechanisms to
>> handle zone content updates. I may well be that they require the zone
>> admin to run a DNS server, but you _can_ (and that's an obvious future
>> to me) send dynamic updates from an application that doesn't work as a
>> DNS server _to_ the master server, so _some_ of your cases can probably
>> be dealt with, but not all. *)

paul.hoffman@vpnc.org:
> I was not aware of those applications. Can you point to some examples?

Well, "nsupdate" is the most obvious one. "dhclient" and "dhcpd" are two
more.

> That works for me, although it should probably be written into the charter.

It should, definitely.

				Cheers,
				  /Liman