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Re: [Ntp] Quick review of WGLC for status change for draft-ietf-ntp-update-registries

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Fri, 29 July 2022 23:13 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Harlan Stenn <stenn@nwtime.org>, Karen O'Donoghue <odonoghue@isoc.org>, "ntp@ietf.org" <ntp@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Ntp] Quick review of WGLC for status change for draft-ietf-ntp-update-registries
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] Quick review of WGLC for status change for draft-ietf-ntp-update-registries
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>   I can still send them, if it will be good for anything.

As the author, I am curious to see what you have to say. But that doesn't mean I will agree with it, nor that the working group will agree with it.  Looking at the NTP mail archive we had an exchange of messages Jan 24 2022 through Feb 1 2022. And I personally sent you a note on Feb 15 telling you the WGLC was coming up so that you could get your comments in.

>    And the point remains that *nobody* else saw any of the problems with 
    the document.

That's not worded fairly, and your comment is sort of an insult to everyone who has read the draft. More accurately: nobody else in the WG sees any problems with the document.

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