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Re: [Ntp] [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-ietf-ntp-using-nts-for-ntp-22.txt> (Network Time Security for the Network Time Protocol) to Proposed Standard

Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com> Wed, 19 February 2020 15:03 UTC

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From: Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 07:03:04 -0800
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To: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-ietf-ntp-using-nts-for-ntp-22.txt> (Network Time Security for the Network Time Protocol) to Proposed Standard
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On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 6:45 AM Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> wrote:
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> On Feb 19, 2020, at 02:23, Daniel Lublin <daniel@lublin..se> wrote:
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> Good day,
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> I'm not entirely convinced of keeping a list of implementations in an RFC.
> But since the information is there, let's at least have it corrected and
> updated upon publishing.
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> There shouldn’t be. See https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7942
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> which clearly states:
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>    Since this information is necessarily time dependent, it is
>    inappropriate for inclusion in a published RFC.  The authors should
>    include a note to the RFC Editor requesting that the [implementation] section be
>    removed before publication.

I could have sworn that note appears in the draft in Section 8, and
looking at the file it indeed does.

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