Re: [Ntp] Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-ntp-interleaved-modes-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com> Thu, 01 July 2021 15:07 UTC

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Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2021 17:05:48 +0200
From: Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
To: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>, Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>, "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-ntp-interleaved-modes-05: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 11:46:36AM +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 11:09:27AM +0000, Rob Wilton (rwilton) wrote:
> > Section 2 of the draft states:
> > 
> >    The origin timestamp is a cookie, which is used to detect a packet
> >    which is not a response to the last packet sent in the other
> >    direction.  Such packets are called bogus packets in RFC 5905.
> 
> I can see how this paragraph is confusing. It was a late addition. It
> should be improved. Bogus packets are responses, not requests.

This should be now fixed in the new version of the draft, together
with the issues pointed out by Éric and Warren.

Please let me know if you think it's insufficient or you see other
issues.

https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ntp-interleaved-modes-06

Thanks,

-- 
Miroslav Lichvar