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Hi all!



It seems " an ASCII uppercase letter or minus sign" still lacks "digit" (in=
 4.1. NTP Reference Identifier Codes).

I'm unsure about " 4.2. NTP Kiss-o'-Death Codes" that claims the same.



I'm also surprised a bit by the ordering of the entries at the end of the t=
able:
0xC302

Reserved for historic reasons

This RFC

0xC402

Reserved for historic reasons

This RFC

0xC502

Reserved for historic reasons

This RFC

0xC602

Reserved for historic reasons

This RFC

0xC702

Reserved for historic reasons

This RFC

0xC802

Reserved for historic reasons

This RFC

0x0902

Reserved for historic reasons

This RFC

0x8902

Reserved for historic reasons

This RFC

0xC902

Reserved for historic reasons

This RFC




Kind regards,

Ulrich



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Subject: [EXT] [Ntp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ntp-update-registries-09.txt



Internet-Draft draft-ietf-ntp-update-registries-09.txt is now available. It=
 is

a work item of the Network Time Protocols (NTP) WG of the IETF.



   Title:   Updating the NTP Registries

   Author:  Rich Salz

   Name:    draft-ietf-ntp-update-registries-09.txt

   Pages:   11

   Dates:   2023-11-21



Abstract:



   The Network Time Protocol (NTP) and Network Time Security (NTS)

   documents define a number of assigned number registries, collectively

   called the NTP registries.  Some registries have wrong values, some

   registries do not follow current common practice, and some are just

   right.  For the sake of completeness, this document reviews all NTP

   and NTS registries, and makes updates where necessary.



   This document updates RFC 5905, RFC 5906, RFC 8573, RFC 7822, and RFC

   7821.



The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ntp-update-registries/



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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Hi all!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">It seems &quot; an ASCII upp=
ercase letter or minus sign&quot; still lacks &quot;digit&quot; (in 4.1. NT=
P Reference Identifier Codes).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I'm unsure about &quot; 4.2.=
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I'm also surprised a bit by =
the ordering of the entries at the end of the table:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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st-language:DE">0xC302<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">This RFC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">This RFC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
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ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">0xC602<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ing:6.0pt 9.0pt 6.0pt 9.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">Reserved for historic reasons<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<td valign=3D"top" style=3D"border-top:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-left:none=
;border-bottom:none;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;padding:6.0pt 9.0pt 6.=
0pt 9.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">This RFC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
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ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">Reserved for historic reasons<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
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ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">0xC802<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">Reserved for historic reasons<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">This RFC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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d #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-bottom:none;border-right:none;background:#F8F8F8;pad=
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ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">0x0902<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</td>
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ground:#F8F8F8;padding:6.0pt 9.0pt 6.0pt 9.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">Reserved for historic reasons<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<td valign=3D"top" style=3D"border-top:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-left:none=
;border-bottom:none;border-right:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;background:#F8F8F8;pad=
ding:6.0pt 9.0pt 6.0pt 9.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">This RFC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<td valign=3D"top" style=3D"border-top:solid #DDDDDD 1.0pt;border-left:soli=
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ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">0x8902<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ing:6.0pt 9.0pt 6.0pt 9.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">Reserved for historic reasons<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">This RFC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">0xC902<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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ize:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#222222;mso-farea=
st-language:DE">This RFC<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Ulrich<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:DE">-----Orig=
inal Message-----<br>
From: ntp &lt;ntp-bounces@ietf.org&gt; On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.or=
g<br>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 2:10 AM<br>
To: i-d-announce@ietf.org<br>
Cc: ntp@ietf.org<br>
Subject: [EXT] [Ntp] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ntp-update-registries-09.txt</s=
pan></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Internet-Draft draft-ietf-ntp-update-registries-0=
9.txt is now available. It is<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">a work item of the Network Time Protocols (NTP) W=
G of the IETF.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; Title: &nbsp;&nbsp;Updating the NTP =
Registries<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; Author:&nbsp; Rich Salz<o:p></o:p></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; Name:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-ietf-n=
tp-update-registries-09.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; Pages:&nbsp;&nbsp; 11<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; Dates:&nbsp;&nbsp; 2023-11-21<o:p></=
o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Abstract:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; The Network Time Protocol (NTP) and =
Network Time Security (NTS)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; documents define a number of assigne=
d number registries, collectively<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; called the NTP registries.&nbsp; Som=
e registries have wrong values, some<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; registries do not follow current com=
mon practice, and some are just<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; right.&nbsp; For the sake of complet=
eness, this document reviews all NTP<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; and NTS registries, and makes update=
s where necessary.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; This document updates RFC 5905, RFC =
5906, RFC 8573, RFC 7822, and RFC<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; 7821.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">The IETF datatracker status page for this Interne=
t-Draft is:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ntp-u=
pdate-registries/<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">There is also an HTML version available at:<o:p><=
/o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-ntp-up=
date-registries-09.html<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">A diff from the previous version is available at:=
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=3Ddraft=
-ietf-ntp-update-registries-09<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:<o=
:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">_______________________________________________<o=
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