[Ntp] NTS for PTP?

Doug Arnold <doug.arnold@meinberg-usa.com> Fri, 21 May 2021 18:33 UTC

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From: Doug Arnold <doug.arnold@meinberg-usa.com>
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Subject: [Ntp] NTS for PTP?
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Here is a brief discussion on the whether NTS for PTP is worth doing, and if it should be in the NTP WG.

Doug