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Subject: Re: [Ntp] Shorter NTS packets?
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On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 1:57 PM Hal Murray <halmurray@sonic.net> wrote:

> How much of the problem will shorter packets solve?
>
> NTS-KE includes a port number.  Can each server just pick
> a local port?
>

I would jokingly suggest udp port 4460, at least until the PHBs have it
hard blocked.

>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 1:57 PM Hal Murray &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
halmurray@sonic.net">halmurray@sonic.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex">How much of the problem will shorter packets solve?<br=
>
<br>
NTS-KE includes a port number.=C2=A0 Can each server just pick<br>
a local port?<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"auto">I would jokingly suggest udp port 4460, at least until the PHB=
s have it hard blocked.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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