Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] NTPv5 modular architecture

Doug Arnold <doug.arnold@meinberg-usa.com> Thu, 23 July 2020 13:54 UTC

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From: Doug Arnold <doug.arnold@meinberg-usa.com>
To: Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net>
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] NTPv5 modular architecture
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Hello Hal,

I agree.  Trying to do a client and server on the same diagram would just result in a mess.

Doug

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Subject: Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] NTPv5 modular architecture


How about separate blocks for client and server?

And another optional block for local non-network sources of time.


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