Re: [Ntp] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notification for draft-gruessing-ntp-ntpv5-requirements-02.txt]
Danny Mayer <mayer@pdmconsulting.net> Tue, 15 June 2021 17:19 UTC
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From: Danny Mayer <mayer@pdmconsulting.net>
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notification for draft-gruessing-ntp-ntpv5-requirements-02.txt]
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On 6/15/21 8:58 AM, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 02:25:21PM -0400, Danny Mayer wrote: >>> - "Encryption and authentication MUST be provided by the protocol >>> specification as a default" >>> >>> It's not clear to me what the default means here. That it is enabled >>> by default in all implementations that support it? >> We should certainly NOT be doing encryption on an NTP packet? What are you >> trying to hide? Timestamps are obsolete almost before you use them and there >> is nothing confidential about them. Authentication IS important and should >> be secured by protocols like NTS or MAC's or (let me say it anyway!) >> Autokey. > Encryption is needed for privacy. It's an NTS feature. It encrypts > cookies in server responses to prevent a passive observer from > matching client requests using the cookies. On the cookie, it's okay as long as it's not the whole packet. Danny
- [Ntp] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Noti… James
- Re: [Ntp] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version … Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version … Dieter Sibold
- Re: [Ntp] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version … Danny Mayer
- Re: [Ntp] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version … Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version … Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version … Doug Arnold
- Re: [Ntp] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version … Danny Mayer