Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-ntp-mode-6-cmds-09: (with COMMENT)
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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Thread-Topic: Antw: [EXT] [Ntp] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-ntp-mode-6-cmds-09: (with COMMENT)
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-ntp-mode-6-cmds-09: (with COMMENT)
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Hello Ulrich Thank you for your reply. Please see in-line for EVY> NB: all the COMMENT points are non-blocking and their intent is only to improve the document. Regards -éric -----Original Message----- From: Ulrich Windl <Ulrich.Windl@rz.uni-regensburg.de> Date: Monday, 24 August 2020 at 07:52 To: Eric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org> Cc: "draft-ietf-ntp-mode-6-cmds@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-ntp-mode-6-cmds@ietf.org>, "ntp@ietf.org" <ntp@ietf.org>, "ntp-chairs@ietf.org" <ntp-chairs@ietf.org>, "odonoghue@isoc.org" <odonoghue@isoc.org> Subject: Antw: [EXT] [Ntp] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-ntp-mode-6-cmds-09: (with COMMENT) >>> Éric Vyncke via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> schrieb am 21.08.2020 um 16:32 in Nachricht <159802037308.10371.11780852739141456472@ietfa.amsl.com>: > Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-ntp-mode-6-cmds-09: No Objection > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ntp-mode-6-cmds/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Thank you for the work put into this document. > > First, I must admit that this is the first time I see an IETF stream > informational document for the specification of a control protocol used by > an > obsoleted RFC 1305. This document is much easier to read than the appendix B > of > RFC 1305 and the author takes care to write that this spec is not mandatory > to > implement but I really wonder why this document exists ? > > Moreover the abstract says "The goal of this document is to provide a > current, > but historic, " so why not publishing this document as 'historic' rather > than > 'informal' (datatracker seems to allow this modification). I don't know what qualifies as "historic", but the protocol is implemented in the _current_ NTPv4 implementation, while the specification was left ot from the NTP v4 RFC. I also think NTP would be quite useless without that mode-6 protocol or a well-established substitute for that (which does not exist yet AFAIK). EV> Thank you, I know understand the purpose of this document. May I suggest to rewrite the abstract and introduction to make this clear ? > > Please find below a couple of non-blocking COMMENTs (and I would appreciate > a > reply to each of my COMMENTs) and some NITs. > > I hope that this helps to improve the document, > > Regards, > > -éric > > == COMMENTS == > ...%<.........%<........ > > -- Section 4 -- > It will probably be useful to expand 'MRU' at first use. > > In the "Read ordered list (11):" it is not clear how the entries are ordered > in > the case of "ifstats" is it per local address ? Are IPv4 addresses before > IPv6 > addresses ? Is this ordering really important? EV> my question about ordering is only because this is a "Read ordered list" so the reader/implementer will assume that the list is ordered, hence my question about ordering IPv4 vs. IPv6 __
- [Ntp] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-nt… Éric Vyncke via Datatracker
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on d… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Éric Vyncke's No Objection … Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Éric Vyncke's No Objection … Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Éric Vyncke's No Obje… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Éric Vyncke's No … Harlan Stenn
- [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Éric Vyncke… Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-iet… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Éric Vy… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-iet… Brian Haberman
- Re: [Ntp] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-iet… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [Ntp] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-iet… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-iet… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [Ntp] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-iet… Brian Haberman
- [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Éric Vyncke's No Objection … Ulrich Windl
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Éric Vyncke's No Object… Brian Haberman
- Re: [Ntp] Antw: [EXT] Re: Éric Vyncke's No Object… Ulrich Windl
- [Ntp] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Re: Éric Vyncke's No … Ulrich Windl