Re: [Ntp] New rev of the NTP port randomization I-D (Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-ntp-port-randomization-01.txt)

Ask Bjørn Hansen <ask@develooper.com> Thu, 30 May 2019 01:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Ntp] New rev of the NTP port randomization I-D (Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-gont-ntp-port-randomization-01.txt)
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> On May 29, 2019, at 5:18 PM, Harlan Stenn <stenn@nwtime.org> wrote:
> 
> The NAT case you mention is a red herring.  That case effectively
> randomizes the port already, at least outside the LAN.

I’ve seen “enterprise NAT” devices that deliberately didn’t port randomize source ports below 1024 (so rather than getting them randomized you’d limit the network to one NTP client per server IP per NAT timeout interval).

On IPv4 it basically doesn't work without port randomization (at scale, etc).

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