Re: [Ntp] [EXT] Re: Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: Registries document
Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com> Tue, 01 August 2023 09:20 UTC
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Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2023 11:19:28 +0200
From: Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
To: Harlan Stenn <stenn@ntp.org>
Cc: "Windl, Ulrich" <u.windl@ukr.de>, "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>, Harlan Stenn <stenn@nwtime.org>, "ntp@ietf.org" <ntp@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Ntp] [EXT] Re: Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: Registries document
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On Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 01:48:49AM -0700, Harlan Stenn wrote: > On 8/1/2023 12:09 AM, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 06:41:36AM +0000, Windl, Ulrich wrote: > > > Actually I think the big mistake made in the past was to add the whole word into the IANA registry when the word is interpreted to consist of four or five fields. > > > > Yes, that's what the authors of RFC5906 should have done, but they > > have not and it's too late to fix that. > > Really? What is so difficult about fixing it? I think we would need to fix all NTP RFCs and their implementations that handle the type is a full 16-bit value. > Miroslav seems to be using "version" and "code subfield" while Ulrich seems > to be using "Field Type" and "Code" (which are name I like). Sorry for the confusion. I used version from the context of the ntpd code, which supports only autokey. -- Miroslav Lichvar
- [Ntp] Registries document Salz, Rich
- Re: [Ntp] Registries document Steven Sommars
- Re: [Ntp] Registries document Salz, Rich
- Re: [Ntp] Registries document Hal Murray
- Re: [Ntp] [EXT] Re: Registries document Windl, Ulrich
- Re: [Ntp] Registries document Martin Burnicki
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Ntp] Registries document Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Registries document Salz, Rich
- Re: [Ntp] [EXT] Re: Registries document Windl, Ulrich
- Re: [Ntp] Registries document Windl, Ulrich
- Re: [Ntp] [EXT] Re: Registries document Paul Gear
- Re: [Ntp] Registries document Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Registries document Salz, Rich
- Re: [Ntp] Registries document Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Registries document Salz, Rich
- Re: [Ntp] Registries document Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Registries document Salz, Rich
- [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: Regis… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] [EXT] Re: Registries document Windl, Ulrich
- Re: [Ntp] [EXT] Re: Registries document Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Registries document Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Harlan Stenn
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- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] [EXT] Re: Experimental/Private EF area:… Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] Registries document Harlan Stenn
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- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Harlan Stenn
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- Re: [Ntp] [EXT] Re: Experimental/Private EF area:… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] [EXT] Re: Experimental/Private EF area:… Miroslav Lichvar
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- Re: [Ntp] [EXT] Re: Experimental/Private EF area:… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] [EXT] Re: Experimental/Private EF area:… Windl, Ulrich
- Re: [Ntp] [EXT] Re: Experimental/Private EF area:… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Harlan Stenn
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… Miroslav Lichvar
- Re: [Ntp] Experimental/Private EF area: was Re: R… David Venhoek