Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync

Erik Nordmark <nordmark@sonic.net> Tue, 07 February 2017 16:06 UTC

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Are we having a call now? I waiting in the virtual lobby.

I don't know if we need a call. I saw Pankaj had a comment but other 
than that I think it is good enough to submit as an I-D.

    Erik


On 2/6/17 8:40 PM, Sami Boutros wrote:
> Draft updated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sami
>
>
> On 2/6/17, 12:01 PM, "Erik Nordmark" <nordmark@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> On 2/6/17 11:16 AM, Sami Boutros wrote:
>>> Hi Erik,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There was some issues with sending the draft to the list, please let me know if you don’t get the attachment.
>> I got this one, and the earlier one, but not your original one.
>>> One more comment to add, to be consistent should we change extension to option in the draft to be consistent with the language in Geneve? If we are ok with that, I can do this change in the next rev before submitting.
>> I think it is fine to have "extension" about the general concept, and
>> "option" as the implementation of that concept in Geneve.
>> However, looking at the the current use of those words I'd suggest
>> OLD
>> 6.1 Current Encapsulations Options
>> NEW
>> 6.1 Current Encapsulations
>>
>> I think some other text can have option changed to extension, but I'd
>> leave the draft the way it is for now.
>>
>>
>>> On 2/6/17, 10:48 AM, "Erik Nordmark" <nordmark@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sam,
>>>>
>>>> I have some minor issues; have others read the document and is it ready
>>>> to submit as an I-D?
>>>> Once we submit it as a I-D we can follow-up with a message to the NVO3
>>>> list asking whether there are things folks want to see clarified so we
>>>> can add any clarifications before Chicago.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The things I saw are:
>>>> 1. I don't seem to be listed as an author at the end
>>> Sorry, about that, I added your name in the attached draft.
>>>
>>>> 2. The section on Group Base Policy has '[reference]'.  Michael, do you
>>>> have a reference we can add?
>>>>
>>>> 3. It isn't clear whether we are recommending some change with respect
>>>> to the 'C' bit. Section 7 item 6 says it is useful. Do we mean its
>>>> definition is unchanged?
>>> This is my assumption.
>> Then I think it makes sense to add a sentence to the end of item 6
>> saying "Thus the C-bit remains as defined in Geneve."
>>>> 4. Item 7 in section 7 can be generalized by saying that there are
>>>> already some extensions that are being discussed (see section 6.2) of
>>>> varying sizes. (Is that the main point? We can enumerate them as
>>>> "extensions for Telemetry, Security/Integrity, and Group Based Policy"
>>>> if that makes it more clear.
>>> I updated this item a bit in the attached draft, please have a look.
>> Looks OK.
>>>> 5. Last sentence in section 7 might have a typo. It says "The control
>>>> planes defined today need to add the ability to describe the different
>>>> encapsulations." but the text above talks about the different
>>>> TLVs/options, and we've talked about having the control plane describe
>>>> the supported TLVs and their order. Thus should the text say "The
>>>> control planes defined today need to add the ability to describe the
>>>> supported TLVs and their order."?
>>> Done.
>> Thanks,
>>      Erik
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Sami
>>>> If we fix the above I think the draft is good enough to submit.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>      Erik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/4/17 5:44 PM, Sami Boutros wrote:
>>>>> I am resending the draft I sent on Thursday,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully, it will get through this time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sami
>>>>> From: nvo3-dt-encap <nvo3-dt-encap-bounces@ietf.org
>>>>> <mailto:nvo3-dt-encap-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Sami Boutros
>>>>> <sboutros@vmware.com <mailto:sboutros@vmware.com>>
>>>>> Date: Monday, January 30, 2017 at 5:28 PM
>>>>> To: "pankajg@microsoft.com <mailto:pankajg@microsoft.com>"
>>>>> <pankajg@microsoft.com <mailto:pankajg@microsoft.com>>,
>>>>> "nvo3-dt-encap@ietf.org <mailto:nvo3-dt-encap@ietf.org>"
>>>>> <nvo3-dt-encap@ietf.org <mailto:nvo3-dt-encap@ietf.org>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don’t see much updates going to the doc?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are we still meeting tomorrow?
>>>>>
>>>>> The only comment was from David a suggestion to increase the MAX size
>>>>> of a single TLV to be 256 bytes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sami
>>>>> From: pankajg@microsoft.com <mailto:pankajg@microsoft.com>
>>>>> When: 8:00 AM - 10:00 AM January 31, 2017
>>>>> Subject: [nvo3-dt-encap] NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync
>>>>> Location: Skype Meeting
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for being late on this. I have been struggling on the home front
>>>>> with both my kids and wife down with flu.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am setting up the regular 2 hour sync, based on preferred time in
>>>>> doodle. If an alternative method like WebEx is preferred for the
>>>>> online call, then please set it up as I only have access to Skype.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Pankaj
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