Re: [oam] [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwarding Plane Operations, Administration and Maintenance
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Subject: Re: [oam] [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwarding Plane Operations, Administration and Maintenance
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Hi, apologies for using this for attendee stuff, but there is no OAMattendees list ;-) I'm at the university. anybody else in town? interested in dinner? (you should probably contact me directly so we don't have an archived record of dinner plans ;-) David Harrington Director, IETF Transport Area ietfdbh@comcast.net (preferred for ietf) dbharrington@huaweisymantec.com +1 603 828 1401 (cell) ietfdbh@gmail for jabber/googletalk > -----Original Message----- > From: oam-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:oam-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Ronald Bonica > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 12:17 PM > To: Alexander Vainshtein > Cc: Alexander Kugel; Andrew Sergeev; Prashant Desai; Idan > Kaspit; David@core3.amsl.com; VanRyzin; oam@ietf.org; Robert > Rennison; Jacob Ruthstein; Rotem Cohen > Subject: Re: [oam] [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on > Forwarding Plane Operations, Administration and Maintenance > > Would any of you be available to present remotely? > > Ron > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alexander Vainshtein [mailto:Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com] > > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 3:33 AM > > To: Ronald Bonica > > Cc: Robert Rennison; Prashant Desai; Alexander Kugel; Rotem Cohen; > > Andrew Sergeev; Idan Kaspit; David VanRyzin; Jacob Ruthstein; > > oam@ietf.org > > Subject: RE: [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwarding > > Plane Operations, Administration and Maintenance > > > > Ron, all, > > As it happens neither I nor any of my colleagues will be able to > > attend. > > > > I attach the position paper on the subject just in case. > > > > Regards and apologies, > > Sasha > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: Alexander Vainshtein > > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 11:44 PM > > To: Ronald Bonica > > Cc: Robert Rennison; Prashant Desai; Alexander Kugel; Rotem Cohen; > > Andrew Sergeev; Idan Kaspit; David VanRyzin; Jacob Ruthstein > > Subject: RE: [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwarding > > Plane Operations, Administration and Maintenance > > > > Ron hi, > > Please see attached a presentation prepared by my colleagues and > > myself. > > I am sending it to you because I have not found any > indications about > > how it should be submitted. And the deadline that has been announced > > seems quite close 9if not beyond us). > > Unfortunately, converting this presentation to an I-D was > not possible > > due to lack of time. > > > > Regards, > > Sasha > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alexander Vainshtein > > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2010 4:54 PM > > To: 'Ronald Bonica' > > Cc: Robert Rennison; Prashant Desai; Idan Kaspit; Alexander Kugel; > > Rotem Cohen; David VanRyzin > > Subject: RE: [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwarding > > Plane Operations, Administration and Maintenance > > > > Ron, > > My colleagues and I plan to submit a position paper for the Joint > > Design Session. > > We would appreciate any tips regarding the submission > process since the > > deadline is close but, as of writing this, no information > (beyond the > > size - 1 to 5 pages) seems to be available. > > > > Regards, > > Sasha > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of Ronald Bonica > > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 8:31 PM > > To: mpls@ietf.org; mpls-tp@ietf.org > > Subject: [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwarding Plane > > Operations, Administration and Maintenance > > > > Folks, > > > > Would anyone intending to submit a position paper please notify me > > privately? > > > > Ron > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "IESG Secretary" <iesg-secretary@ietf.org> > > > To: "IETF Announcement list" <ietf-announce@ietf.org> > > > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 7:36 PM > > > Subject: IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwarding Plane > > Operations, > > > Administration and Maintenance > > > > > > > > > > The IAB and IESG would like to announce a joint design > session on > > > > Forwarding Plane Operations, Administration and > Maintenance (OAM) > > to > > > be > > > > held on October 12 through October 14 at George Mason > University in > > > > Fairfax, Virginia, USA. > > > > > > > > IP and ICMP support very simple forwarding plane > diagnostic tools > > > (e.g., > > > > PING, TRACEROUTE). During the Internet's first decades, > these tools > > > > fulfilled most operational requirements. However, > during the last > > > decade, > > > > network operators have deployed many technologies that rely upon > > > > tunneling. These technologies include Pseudo-wires, > Layer 2 Virtual > > > > Private Networks, and Layer 3 Virtual Private Networks. > While the > > > internet > > > > community has enhanced its forwarding plane diagnostic tool kit > > with > > > the > > > > deployment of Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD), some > > suggest > > > that > > > > the tool kit is still inadequate for tunneled applications. > > > > > > > > The purpose of this design session is to discover and document > > > > operational requirements and constraints for tunneled forwarding > > > plane > > > > OAM. The design session will also entertain solution proposals. > > > > While > > > most > > > > activity in this area has been associated with > Multi-Protocol Label > > > > Switching (MPLS), session organizers also encourage generic > > > > proposals > > > that > > > > include other tunneling mechanisms (e.g., IP-in-IP). > > > > > > > > The scope of this design session is limited to the forwarding > > plane. > > > > Proposals concerning control and management plane protocols will > > not > > > be > > > > accepted. For example, a proposal that probes a tunnel for > > > > continuity would be acceptable, while a proposal for reporting > > > > tunnel continuity > > > to a > > > > routing protocol or management station would be productive, but > > > beyond the > > > > scope of this workshop. > > > > > > > > Those intending to make presentations must submit > position papers > > to > > > the > > > > IAB/IESG by September 24. Position papers should > constitute one to > > > five > > > > pages on the problem or solution space, with a > particular emphasis > > > > on areas that the IETF should address or revisit. > Evaluation of the > > > position > > > > papers will be performed by a committee consisting of > IESG and IAB > > > > members. A limited number of seats will be available for persons > > not > > > > presenting. > > > > > > > > Position papers will be made publicly available. On the basis of > > the > > > > position papers, a number of invited speakers will be asked to > > > present at > > > > the workshop. A final agenda with timeslots will be published by > > > October > > > > 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > Further information about position paper submission > procedures are > > > > forthcoming. Interested parties are advised to > subscribe to the oam > > > at > > > > ietf.org mailing list for discussion and announcements > related to > > > > the workshop. Additional information will be available at > > > > http://www3.tools.ietf.org/area/ops/trac/wiki/oamJDS. > > > > > > > > Ron Bonica, IESG > > > > Danny McPherson, IAB > > > > Hannes Tschofenig, IAB > > _______________________________________________ > > mpls-tp mailing list > > mpls-tp@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp > _______________________________________________ > oam mailing list > oam@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oam
- [oam] Fwd: IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwa… Stan Ratliff
- Re: [oam] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwar… Ronald Bonica
- [oam] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwarding… Ronald Bonica
- Re: [oam] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwar… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [oam] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session on Forwar… Ronald Bonica
- Re: [oam] [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session… Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [oam] [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session… Ronald Bonica
- Re: [oam] [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [oam] [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session… Robert Rennison
- Re: [oam] [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session… Robert Rennison
- Re: [oam] [mpls-tp] IAB/IESG Joint Design Session… David Harrington