Re: [oauth-ext-review] [Ace] Requested review for IANA registration in draft-ietf-ace-oauth-params

Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> Sun, 19 January 2020 23:35 UTC

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I have managed to merge most of my code that deals with the confirmation claim and I have ended up with a single problem when dealing with confirmations.  If this is going to get fixed, it needs to get fixed in draft-ietf-ace-cwt-proof-of-possession prior to this document finishing processing the EDIT process in the RFC editor.

 

All of the items that can appear in a confirmation claim are unique except for the ‘kid’ claim method.  This field is defined as being a text field for JWT (RFC 7800), but it is defined as being a binary field for CWT.  It is a text field when defined in RFC 7800.  I do not anticipate any issues for the definition of a thumbprint as COSE is using a very different format for the definition of thumbprints which will led to a different naming convention.

 

Jim

 

 

 

From: Brian Campbell <bcampbell@pingidentity.com> 
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Subject: Re: [Ace] Requested review for IANA registration in draft-ietf-ace-oauth-params

 

Thanks Ludwig,

 

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 8:20 AM Seitz Ludwig <ludwig.seitz@combitech.se <mailto:ludwig.seitz@combitech.se> > wrote:

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From: Ace <ace-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:ace-bounces@ietf.org> > On Behalf Of Brian Campbell

 

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So in -09 the "cnf" Introspection Response Parameter was the following the syntax of the "cnf" claim from PoP Key Semantics for CWTs [ID.ietf-ace-cwt-proof-of-possession] and in -10 it's following the syntax of PoP Key Semantics for JWTs [RFC7800] transitively via [I-D.ietf-oauth-mtls] reference. I think I understand that the two PoP key semantics documents are conceptually the same or similar. But I don't know that the syntax is the same? Figure 5 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ace-oauth-params-10#section-6>  is pointed to for mapping between CBOR and JSON but it only has mappings for the main top level parameters. Maybe I just don't get it or am missing something...   

 

[LS] No you are not missing something, I just got sloppy trying to do a quickfix.

 

Background: The reason for defining both JSON and CBOR-based interactions is that you might have a powerful client communicating with a constrained RS. The client does vanilla OAuth interactions with the AS via the token endpoint, but is served a CWT and associated ACE parameters (cnf, ace-profile, …) for interaction with the RS. 

The pop-key should decode to the same binary representation regardless of whether it came in a JSON or CBOR wrapper.

 

Okay, so noting that there is cnf content that doesn't decode to a key, I suppose I'll just take it on faith that all the relevant or expected usages involve a key that can be represented in both CBOR and JSON. 


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